Template talk:Contentious topics/aware

Template talk:Ds/aware edit

See also: related discussions at Template talk:Ds/aware. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 15:00, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Edit request 31 March 2023 edit

Description of suggested change: When I first saw this template on an editor's talk page, I thought 'alerts' meant any form of notice relating that topic, not specific templates that alert the editor that they are editing on a contentious topic. It should reworded to be clearer to new editors. Diff:

They should not be given alerts for those areas.
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They should not be reminded that those areas are contentious topics.

Carpimaps (talk) 14:05, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

"Alert" is a word used throughout Wikipedia:Contentious topics and the system of templates. If unclear, it could be expanded to "contentious topic alert". — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:36, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
To editor Carpimaps: that wording is pretty much controlled by the Arbitration Committee, and has been in place for a long time. Don't see how it could be made clearer by being redundant with the "contentious topics" phrase. And "alerts" is a bit stronger term than "reminders", don't you think? What exactly is vague here? I've placed emphasis on parts of the sentence. Hope that helps. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 14:43, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
The part that was vague(at least for me) is the word 'alert'. 'Alert' usually means any form of notice or notification. However in this case it is referring to a specific system of templates. It is not wikilinked so I applied the generic definition of 'alert', which caused me to think that any form of message to the user relating to the contentious topic(s) listed is prohibited. Carpimaps (talk) 17:12, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, and that's pretty much what it does mean. Went ahead and linked it to the {{Alert}} template to solidify it a bit more. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 17:22, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply