Talk:Trace Adkins

Latest comment: 2 years ago by 2601:1C2:4E02:9580:F937:E60:5F71:2B37 in topic Why does this have to be so filtered?

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With regards to the voice type, with my knowledge of voice I know for a fact it is an incorrect classification.

I don't trust the validity of those quores of articles stating him to be a baritone.

1. His timbre is way too low to be a baritone, in fact it is closer to a true bass's timbre and tessitura.

2. Also, I know from experience that people who don't understand voice-types will improperly call low male voices basses or baritones without knowing the difference.

3. Furthermore, here's some articles that states him as being a bass: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_/ai_n16164728, http://traceadkins.com/news.php?p=291&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more291, http://blogs.usatoday.com/listenup/2008/07/index.html, and http://www.cmt.com/news/country-music/1591611/trace-adkins-returns-to-corporate-environment-at-virginia-concert.jhtml. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bailaowai (talkcontribs) 22:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

Rough & Ready edit

I've heard both versions of Rough & Ready. I don't have the album -- believe it or not, I heard the PG-13 version on the radio once. The changes are as follows: "What are you lookin' at pretty boy smirk" becomes "...@$$hole smirk" or something similar, while "It don't fit, it makes me itch" becomes "It's a b***h, it makes me itch". Just in case anyone wanted to know. Maybe later versions of the album featured the "cleaner" version instead? Ten Pound Hammer(((Broken clamshellsOtter chirps))) 13:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

I got the album very soon after it came out and it had the "clean" version. The profane version may have been specially recorded later on, but I doubt it was the original version. If anything I think it's just a version he sings at live shows, doing some cursory internet research. Overall this, to me, is similar to the "Friends in Low Places" alternate verse. Garth Brooks didn't rerecord the song for radio; the radio version was always on recording, and the "profane" lyrics are just there for the enjoyment of his fans at his shows. Spell4yr 00:45, 10 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
Considering things further, I've solved my own misconception. I bought the album at Wal*Mart, so that probably explains a lot.Spell4yr 00:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Trailer Park of Terror edit

He also had a role in this fine piece of cinema. 173.22.123.35 (talk) 01:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

March 2011 – Wives clarification edit

In the "Early life" section (before edit), one would get the impression that Trace was only married twice, which became problematic when reading further down in "Injuries" section. That left the impression that Rhonda (current wife) was the "second wife" who shot him, when it was actually Julie he was married to at the time.

Appropriate edits and cites added. — DennisDallas (talk) 06:33, 31 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Id more say the problem with claiming a bullet passed through his heart and didnt kill him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.203.155.187 (talk) 04:23, 18 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Wounded Warrior Project edit

Trace appears in television spots for this charity. Shouldn't that be mentioned, along with his appearances in concerts to raise money for soldiers? 67.175.10.77 (talk) 16:13, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

If you can find a source, other that his website, I say it definitely worthy of mention. I'm not saying it isn't true, but an independent source would be better. Tomsv 98 (talk) 21:21, 12 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Here is a YouTube vid of one of his spots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxVF8PoZIWQ Here is a press report: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/trace-adkins-volunteers-with-wounded-warrior-project-300126215.html As of today (9 March 2015) the term "warrior" on the search-bar of "traceadkins.com" returns 1 hit, a bare mention of "... spokesman for the Wounded Warrior Project..." and no links tp WWP spots. 2602:306:B84A:ABD0:400D:9A15:8E60:3717 (talk) 19:41, 9 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

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RfC about "country" in lede edit

As with the ongoing RfCs at Talk:Blake Shelton and Talk:Tim McGraw, per MOS:BLP the genre should be included in the lede on a case-by-case basis, so should "country singer-songwriter" be mention in the lede here? On a side note, I think that the provision of MOS:BLP is sort of unnecessary, but there is a reason why I did not WP:BOLDly add it. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:20, 13 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

  • Yes (Summoned by bot) L3X1 (distænt write) 02:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • Strong oppose for "singer-songwriter". That is a specific designation for a certain type of songwriter and performer. Adkins has written some of his music, but by-and-large, the songs he records are written by others -- that disqualifies him from the singer-songwriter category. I am in favor of the current wording, "Country singer, songwriter, and actor". -- ψλ 16:41, 25 December 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • Support adding country to the lead. JDDJS (talk) 16:56, 25 December 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • Use Winkelvi's version: "country [music] singer, songwriter, and actor". I.e., I agree with JDDJS in supporting the addition to the lead of "country" (better as "country music", see below). But I also agree with Winkelvi that he's not what "singer-songwriter" refers to; that means a singer who mostly writes their own material. He's a singer mostly of others' material. I'm not even sure he's notable as a songwriter at all. I guess it would depend on whether a bunch of his notable songs were actually written by him, and whether he's writing songs for others (even if yes, that's still not singer-songwriter; Kate Bush is a singer-songwriter. I prefer to use use "country music", not "country" because "country singer" doesn't parse well for non-native English speakers unfamiliar with the genre; it looks like some kind of error, like someone inserted a place-holder (as in "is a football player from city"). Remember that, per WP:REUSE, our article text should make sense to as many readers as possible even if there are no links, because it can be reused without them.  — SMcCandlish ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ʌ<  06:53, 1 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

    PS: In light of other recent RfCs of this sort: If the lead already had "country" in it (e.g. in the name of a music award) immediately after the first sentence, I would say to not add it to the lead sentence as redundant. But in this case, "country" first appears about half way through the fairly long lead, so it make contextual sense to front-load the word into the opening sentence.  — SMcCandlish ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ʌ<  22:23, 8 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

  • Also (Summoned by bot). Fully agree with SMcCandlish; Winkelvi's version is accurate and complete. "Country music" more unusual in speaking of genres, but as a general description is probably is easier to parse, so preferable. Happy days, LindsayHello 12:20, 3 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Why does this have to be so filtered? edit

When you have to filter to this extent, that inherently means that information, drama, implications, history are not being included in the Wiki. So much for trustability(Merriam-"worthiness as the recipient of another's trust or confidence.") It's why I stopped donating to Wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C2:4E02:9580:F937:E60:5F71:2B37 (talk) 03:40, 1 October 2021 (UTC)Reply