Talk:Puerto Vallarta

American immigration/whatnot

I've heard that Puerto Vallarta is a destination for a lot of retirees. How is American immigration changing PV? Are there any safety issues? What is the state of police and/or official corruption? Ken 19:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

It's better than most of Mexico and continues to get better. Violent crime is quite rare relative to most of Mexico. But according to the people I spoke to during my visit, the government is still quite awful by American standards. For example, the city is still unable to control the numerous unregulated private bus lines whose aging, unsafe vehicles wander around the city running over hapless pedestrians at random. In contrast, anyone who tried to operate an unlicensed private bus company in the United States would get hit by an injunction quickly, followed by the arrest of any of the bus company's employees or managers who continued to operate buses in violation of the injunction.

The city is okay at controlling litter (about the same as most large American cities) but is still stuck in the Third World with regard to street construction, street maintenance, and utilities. There are A LOT of potholes, the sidewalks have to be seen to be believed, and much of the street network at the edges is a chaotic unpaved hodgepodge that does not make sense. --Coolcaesar 06:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

There is corruption in the police force, and it's not uncommon to hear stories about Americans being robbed by police under the guise of making a drug search. This must happen a lot, because I meet at least one person every visit this has happened to. As for general safety, the beaches can be dangerous at night. Muggings are not uncommon. The infrastructure continues to improve rapidly. The city is more or less stuck with it's narrow roads, but it's made improvements in healthcare facilities, sewage treatment, general amenities like the Malecón improvements, parking structures (for visitors from Guadalajara, Tepic, etc.). Also the city government has been working to get better control over new construction, which is often ill-planned, ugly, and dangerous (e.g. a condo building was destroyed in early 2007 when a new construction project undermined the hill it sat on). Tbyrnestl 05:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)tbyrnestl

I have lived in PV for 12 years, full-time, and operate a business here. I have never, once, met anyone who was robbed by police during a drug search. I find the above comment to be bizarre. mtngringo

OK, let's get this up to date Feb 2017, 16 year resident.

Crime is low, violence is mostly drug on drug and personal disputes but not common, the newspapers sex it up to sell copy. Tourists are little affected. Commonest causes of death for visitors seems to be drowning and heart attacks (anecdotal from following local news). I feel safer on the streets here than in small town UK. Pitillal is a local shopping centre with very many shops for tourists to visit and no safety issues, Vallarta is not just the Malecon, many other areas are safe for tourists.

Buses are bad, old (10-30 years, in many cases), a lot in poor condition but newer ones are coming in. There is a BIG campaign to change this with brand new buses and routes but is slow to happen. As for felling pedestrians, I have seen many pedestrians running across roads without any regard for traffic, have had narrow misses myself, I'd say 50/50 buses/pedestrians at fault. There seems to be little done to get taxis under control, the local union chief has vowed to fight any chance of getting Uber into the town. Always agree a fare before getting in and check with your hotel what you should expect first.

Streets are being improved. There are a large number of works in progress though it has to be spread over fiscal years and ares of the town as there is so much to do. Things are getting a lot better in this regard, a new bridge and route have opened in the last few weeks. Passed one main route today where they are laying new concrete after thoroughly preparing the road bed over the last few weeks. Lots of rebuilt road in my area.

The police have been heavily overhauled with tests on confidence and much training. Patrol vehicles have been updated and the fleet expanded. I have a lot more confidence with them than I did when I arrived and my personal experience with them is good. It is now a totally different force to 5 or 10 years ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.177.139.117 (talk) 05:36, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

American standards

Is American standards good,or are they out of control? If you want American standards go to Hawaii, if you want to step out of the box and see how most of the rest of the world lives, try Mexico. What makes Puerto Vallarta so charming is they do not use American standards!! PVKID

Of course most Americans will stay in their hotels, dine at restaurants close to their hotels, and will contact Mexico only via some pastiche folkore show or kitsch bought on the Isla Cuale. Charming mexican Vallarta does exist though, if you just look for it. Head under the Libramiento along the Cuale into Remance some evening and eat at a taqueria there while wandering around (yes it's safe), or head to the big open-air birria joint near the cemetry along the libramiento, or walk around Pitillal, etc.

What's not charming in Mexico or anywhere is police corruption, government corruption, and the like. That too is a part of how the rest of the world lives. Developped countries have managed to curb that quite a bit better than lesser developped countries. That's simply because justice doesn't come cheap. You can see this situation improving gradually in PVR. It would improve even more if Americans were more consciencious about the social inequalities their tourist dollar can sustain if they are not careful where they spend it. Tbyrnestl 05:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)tbyrnestl

George Jung

Why did the infamous George Jung in 1969 of all places visit just Puerto Vallarta in search for a producer of marihuana? Had the place some reputation back in 1969, was there a notable pot-industry or was it just coincidence respectively inexperience and he had to start searching somewhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.4.71.247 (talk) 05:00, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Asylum Films

Asylum Films, infamous for their CGI creature-feature B movies and mockbusters, filmed multiple films in succession in Puerto Vallarta (they even use the same 40 second long establishing shot of the resort in every one of the movies), with the resort identified by name during the establishing shot each time. These include 'Dinoshark' and 'Sharktopus.' Does this count as noteworthy? Atypicaloracle (talk) 03:23, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

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Playa Los Muertos (Playa de Los Muertos)

I noticed this part in the description of Playa Los Muertos: "Playa Los Muertos (Beach of the Dead) - Col. Emiliano Zapata - the city's largest public beach. Legend has it the beach's name (Dead Men's Beach) stems from a battle between pirates and local miners after which bodies remained strewn on the beach, but it's a legend, since there were never any miners in Vallarta."

I present a separate and better-accepted explanation of the name, that doesn't require an immediate rebuttal as in the prior description: "The beach was a sacred cemetery of the local Indians. This was first noticed when residents started digging up bones in ceramic pots, a local Indian tribal custom when they buried their dead. The most recent evidence supported by Archaeologist Dr. Joseph Mounjoy backs this last theory." from https://www.puertovallarta.net/what_to_do/los-muertos-beach — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hvalborg (talk • contribs) 11:32, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Just FYI, there's now a standalone entry for Playa de los Muertos (Puerto Vallarta). Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:37, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Colonias

Would List of colonias in Puerto Vallarta or List of neighborhoods in Puerto Vallarta be helpful?

Is there an official list for either? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:33, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Sources:

• https://www.puertovallarta.net/fast_facts/puerto-vallarta-colonias
• http://www.heraldo.com.mx/jalisco/puerto-vallarta/puerto-vallarta/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:57, 12 November 2021 (UTC)