Talk:Procurator Gynaecii
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Why have you redirected the article? Green Squares (talk) 16:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- Please join the discussion at WT:CGR. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:42, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- The discussion to hold an article #Redirect should be held an the article's talk page, not hidden away in an obscure place by two conspirators. Green Squares (talk) 20:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- The discussion is held at the most relevant WikiProject, because that's where we are most likely to get competent contributions. Such as by people who can read the original sources and may even have them at home or in their office. The idea that there was a "procurator cynegii" apparently goes back to wishful thinking by the 16th century author Wolfgangus Lazius and has been repeated uncritically, due to unprofessionalism or wishful thinking, ever since. But only in dog literature. So far this is just a case of the dilettantism and plagiarism that one expects from laypeople writing about antiquity. However, if we now have a Wikipedian who believes so strongly in the "procurator cynegii" that he thinks dog books containing verifiable errors due to plagiarism overrule classical scholars, then this case gets into the domain of fringe beliefs. Congratulations. It appears the fringe theory already comes complete with a conspiracy theory. --Hans Adler (talk) 22:40, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Reliable sources are unanimous on Procurator Gynaecii: see the bibliography. I'm working on the article right now: please wait to see how it looks -- there's lots of time, these people have been waiting 1600 years for recognition on Wikipedia! Andrew Dalby 09:37, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I've remodelled the article now. It's still necessary to add information about, or at least links to, the Roman cities and provinces where these procuratores were stationed. The story of the "procurator cynegii" is surely notable, although it's not historical fact, so it gets quite a lot of space. Andrew Dalby 14:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Brilliant! Excellent stub. I agree that the dog story should be allowed to get a lot of space; in fact I am going to extend it a bit by adding some more perspective from [1]. --Hans Adler (talk) 15:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Done. The connections between your text and my additions are quite complex, so I reorganised everything. You might want to check that the sectionstill makes sense. --Hans Adler (talk) 15:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- The discussion is held at the most relevant WikiProject, because that's where we are most likely to get competent contributions. Such as by people who can read the original sources and may even have them at home or in their office. The idea that there was a "procurator cynegii" apparently goes back to wishful thinking by the 16th century author Wolfgangus Lazius and has been repeated uncritically, due to unprofessionalism or wishful thinking, ever since. But only in dog literature. So far this is just a case of the dilettantism and plagiarism that one expects from laypeople writing about antiquity. However, if we now have a Wikipedian who believes so strongly in the "procurator cynegii" that he thinks dog books containing verifiable errors due to plagiarism overrule classical scholars, then this case gets into the domain of fringe beliefs. Congratulations. It appears the fringe theory already comes complete with a conspiracy theory. --Hans Adler (talk) 22:40, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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