Talk:Odia people

Accuracy box

I removed nandita das's photo , some one paste it with Fakir Mohan Senapati, as Senapati was considered a builder of the Nation and to add an actress photo to him is not only unjustified but also a vugar attempt to demoralize a Nation's identity. 12 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.225.6 (talk)

I removed the notice questioning the accuracy of the article because no dispute was raised on the talk page. If someone wants to put it back, please explain why on the talk page. Brad T. Cordeiro 03:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

You had removed Nandita Das' photo. Brilliant! So you have shown that Oriya culture could produce only one Fakir Mohan Senapati. You did not add any other eminent figure. You didn't add Utkala Mani Gopabandhu's photo, Utakala Gaurava Madhusudan Das' photo, both who have done great service to the state of Orissa. You didn't even think about adding Biju Patnaik's photo, who had done a lot to develop the nation! And what's wrong with Nandita Das? She is not some actress whose capabilities are only confined to exposing flesh like Bipasha Basu. She is an excellent actress and eminent film maker. She has acted mostly in art house cinema, more than even Irfan Khan and and Konkona Sen. She is well known abroad and she is highly respected and has received international acclaim.Whenever I mention that Nandita Das is an Oriya, some people cannot believe that such an excellent and accomplished actor is from Orissa, which they always believe to be some culturally backward and deficient place. And you removed her photo, because she is an actress and therefore vulgar! If Lipsa Acharya's photo had been pasted and you would have removed it, I would have applauded you for having the sense to do so! Even I would remove such an infamous woman's photo! But Nandita Das!It says a lot about your view of things. Look at other community articles like the Irish- American one. These articles not only have respected statesmen and writers and poets, but also singers and actors. It reflects the diverse accomplishments of a community. Orissa has not just produced one Fakir Mohan Senapati, a distinguished and revolutionary writer nevertheless. It has also produced many people who have influenced the destiny of this nation. These photos should inspire people to do something great so that their community can hold their heads high. And as far as "vulgarity" is concerned, a century ago, when Fakir Mohan Senapati was alive, if there was a Wikipedia and such an article was produced, and if someone had put the portrait of Sarala Das and somebody else put the Builder of the Nation, Fakir Mohan Senapati's photo, then someone, who is a self appointed judge of public morals at that period of time, would have removed Fakir Mohan Senapatiji's photo, because writer who is eminent for us now, was considered a revolutionary by many of his contemporaries, who harmed the order of society. So think before you start judging vulgarity. -Prakritapuram. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prakritapuram (talk • contribs) 19:22, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Removing un-polished content

"The inhabitants of orissa (known as oriya or odia) are aryans who are also known as north indians. Their culture differ from th dravidian culture (commonly known as south indians) to much extent. Both north indians and south indians live in the same country INDIA and they have great brotherhood among themselves despite of their differernces in culture"

I'm removing this as it is clearly not up to Wikipedia's standards, as well as being obviously written by an excessively proud Oriya person (and being located in the wrong place). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.48.42.244 (talk) 08:04, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes I think it true as Odia culture is same as that of North Indian culture. Check 1 (talk) 11:15, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

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Oriya people → Odia people – In accordance with the Oriya to Odia change in Odia language. Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 17:46, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

• Support as per above.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 22:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
• Support per Odia language. + Suggest move to Odias as per WP:CONCISE and WP:ETHNICGROUP and per similar articles like Biharis and Bengalis. Khestwol (talk) 19:49, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Odias will be a better title for the article. — Remoonline (talk) 09:46, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

While the oppose vote below was probably made in error, let's keep things simple and get the the move to Odia people approved first. We can then consider moving to Odias.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 10:05, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Rather than adding the word "people" as disambiguator, the concise plural ethnonym (Odias) should be used in titles whenever possible and when its not ambiguous in meaning. This is the general convention in Wikipedia. Khestwol (talk) 11:25, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

• Support The language and the people, both are Odia. - Remoonline (talk) 20:00, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose This is already being discussed at Oriya language. Other articles are Oriya literature and Oriya cuisine. Per NC:LANG and commonality, it would be inappropriate to move one and not the others. — kwami (talk) 22:50, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

@Kwamikagami: FYI, Oriya language has already been moved to Odia language. It would therefore be inappropriate to not move the others.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 07:10, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Never mind. I see that you are well aware that the move has been approved.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 10:22, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

• Actually most pages on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/oriya except a few are eligible for move to Odia now that the language has been moved. Yesterday, I remember seeing the Oriya alphabet page moved to Odia language but today, that seems to have been reverted back - Remoonline (talk) 08:27, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I was able to revert the text changes, but am unable to reverse the article title move back to Odia alphabet.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 12:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

A multiple pages move request could be started to also move these remaining articles which are still using Oriya. Khestwol (talk) 11:01, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

That makes sense. It's too late to edit this request. But I'll make another one elsewhere once this is approved. (BTW, that PrefixIndex list is actually much shorter than it looks as many of the entries are actually redirects.)--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 12:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Cpt.a.haddock: It will be ok if you start one new multiple page move request right now. Here is the list again with the redirects hidden. The articles which may be moved are: Oriya alphabet, Oriya (Unicode block), Oriya languages, Oriya Muslims, Oriya literature. Khestwol (talk) 14:00, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

@Khestwol: Thanks for the list. Rather than the pages being protected, most moves are simply being prevented due to the target page being in the way. I've managed to request many to be deleted and the moves processed. If any are left after a few days, I'll open a multiple move request accordingly. (Also, I'm not sure if Oriya (Unicode block) should be renamed. It's possible that the block will continue to be named Oriya for reasons of stability.)--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 06:09, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

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Regions of significant Population

India= 32,000,000

Australia =150,000

Germany =140,780

Qatar=128,000

Bahrain= 110,090

Oman =105,000

France =89,000

United States=87,000

Thailand=80,800

Canada=78,500

|pop = 45,350,000 (Approx.)

These are the region of significant amount of Odia diaspora population. Check 1 (talk) 09:40, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

you need to provide a citation for this information. Frietjes (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

But I have given the site , can che Check 1 (talk) 08:29, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

I think it's correct information, if there is a doubt can check out on the site given. Check 1 (talk) 08:31, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

So I am adding it. Check 1 (talk) 08:31, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

you need to provide a citation for this information. Frietjes (talk) 13:54, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

you need to provide a citation for this information. Frietjes (talk) 15:55, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

If not, if you are blind , then go to the given site. Check 1 (talk) 00:49, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Fixed the references. The United States population reference still need correction as to form. Rather than WP:Edit war I suggest you both fix tthe format and then look at these reliable sources. WP:Dead horse. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:27, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I have checked the sources cited for the population figures in the infobox. Only one of them (for India) supports the figure given, the others do not mention Odia prople or Oriya language. Several of the sources are for different countries, and two of the citations are seriously misleading as they give an incorrect title that indicates the wrong country.

• India - this appears to be correct, although the figure is from 2001. The page is archived here.
• Germany - Dead link, and nothing at archive.org
• France - The four cited sources relate to immigrants in Pakistan. One has a misleading citation that falsely mentions Paris in the article title.
• Saudi Arabia - cited source does not mention Odia or Oriya
• United Arab Emirates - cited source does not mention Odia or Oriya
• United Kingdom - cited source does not mention Odia or Oriya
• Qatar - cited source does not mention Odia or Oriya
• United States - One source does not mention Odia or Oriya. The other gives the Oriya-speaking population as 5,385. Unclear why we should include all the groups listed in the footnote.
• Kuwait - Dead link, nothing useful at archive.org
• Bahrain - Cited source does not mention Odia or Oriya
• Canada - Cited source does not mention Odia or Oriya
• Thailand - Sourced to a page about Austrialia, which does not mention Odia people or language. Misleading citation that falsely mentions Thailand in the article title

I will remove these figures from the infobox. Verbcatcher (talk) 19:43, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

These subheading state oriya . Which is the second name of odias. Check 1 (talk) 11:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

No, I checked many of the references you added -- they do not mention "Oriya" or "Odia". You have simply copied the population figures from Bengalis: the sources mention these figures for Bengali speakers, not Odia speakers. Please stop adding fake citations. utcursch | talk 14:40, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Bongla and odia are same language in speaking.only minute difference script Check 1 (talk) 09:30, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

So I am adding the content Check 1 (talk) 09:31, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

We trace our roots in Europe as we are indo aryanic groups . Germany France These all our native country of the indo aryanic group Check 1 (talk) 10:25, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

And also we belong to indo aryanic group so we trace our roots in Europe. Check 1 (talk) 10:24, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Nope, Bengali and Odia are not same language. And no, the roots of Odia people cannot be traced to Europe. Please do not add population figures for Bengali and European languages to this article, or you will end up getting blocked. utcursch | talk 20:26, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

After being blocked, User:Check 1 seems to be using various IP addresses to add back this content using fake refs: 2405:204:28A:FFA7:5CE0:FDB7:E9E5:1411, 2405:204:20a9:8445:4a64:796f:7ad4:12a4 etc. I've undone these additions. utcursch | talk 22:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Female representation

Why is it only men in the Notable Odia section? 24.180.130.212 (talk) 17:21, 28 January 2023 (UTC)