Talk:Mixed reality

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Plans to Edit this Article in the Near Future

A team of three of us plan to edit this article as a part of a "Writing for Engineers" course. We noticed that many of the sources cited seem outdated, so we plan to add newer sources and more recent updates on Mixed Reality. --Lilyperr (talk) 21:35, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

We finished our edits on this page. We added more research, updated examples and images to be more recent, and removed plagarism. --Lilyperr (talk) 19:29, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Interreality physics

An article in the May 2007 issue of Phys Rev E describes mixed reality states in an interreality system (http://link.aps.org/abstract/PRE/v75/e057201). Perhaps this article would benefit from the definition of these terms in the context of physics and the natural sciences. It seems that in the paper, "mixed reality" refers to a coherent state where the virtual system and the real system are correlated, while "dual reality" refers to the two systems displaying uncorrelated motion. "Interreality system" refers to the big total system comprising the virtual system and the real system. In this case, it seems the "interreality" is used the same way as in J. van Kokswijk, Human, Telecoms & Internet as Interface to Interreality (Bergboek, Langedijk, 2003).

Article seems inaccurate

It seems to me that mixed reality is a *generalization* of augmented reality, not a specialization. Also, this article would certainly benefit from an illustration of Milgram's continuum. Dragice 22:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

In my experience Augmented reality and Mixed reality are interchangeable terms. Article should be merged with Augmented reality in my opinion Serg3d2 14:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)]

Often Augmented Reality is correctly used interchangeably with Mixed Reality, as that is exactly what the Mixed Reality in question is producing. However Mixed Reality may also be used to describe an Augmented Virtuality environment, and is therefore definitely not always the same thing.

According to Milgram's model, it is obvious that Mixed Reality is more general than Augmented Reality. These terms should certainly **not** be used interchangeably. However, because wikipedia is not a dictionary, it would make sense to merge these two articles. We can also hope one day we'll have a paragraph on augmented virtuality. Dragice 01:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

(Reply) As we know MR is not AR, so why should they be merged? If anything AR should be merged into MR, as it is a specialisation of MR. But I don't think this would enhance the encyclopaedia in any particular way. MR is not a word, it is a topic, and an encyclopaedia is usually "a reference source containing information on a variety of topics".

It seems to me that it would be a bad idea to merge Mixed Reality with Augmented Reality, since Mixed Reality encompasses both Augmented Reality and Virtual Reality. It is a common mistake to believe MR and AR are interchangeable, due to the use of MR by some organizations and brands (as Nokia) instead of AR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LionelMoi (talk • contribs) 11:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the mixed reality page should be separate from augmented reality but it's a tough call. Mixed reality is an overarching concept focused on the experience of reality itself. Augmented reality is part of the virtuality continuum but mixed reality is the whole continuum. The Wiki Virtuality continuum page has a diagram which makes sense to me. It's an overarching concept within which augmented reality sits. Simply because people are inaccurate with their use of the terms isn't reason to merge the concepts. Augmented reality is often used to describe applications which use GPS information and Google Maps without any overlay on the viewer's visual field in media articles however in my opinion this is not augmented reality. Morethanhuman (talk) 11:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure every point on the spectrum needs its own article, since they are in effect the same thing to different degrees. It's unclear the distinct terms for different degrees have much traction beyond the original authors. Probably reality–virtuality continuum is enough to explain the uncommon terms augmented virtuality and mixed reality. Augmented reality is a bit more mainstream and might cover the actual technologies involved where both real and computer-generated elements are visible at the same time. -- Beland (talk) 16:58, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

On the merge: Not supported...maybe the article could use some polish, but while there could be lots of crossover & confusion from people - this is not an obvious merge situation. -- IamM1rv (talk) 11:38, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

"It has been suggested that Virtuality Continuum be merged into this article."

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Closed old merge discussion as no consensus. Ajpolino (talk) 23:17, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

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That's tagged on the article since October 2013. Apparently there wasn't even a talk page entry yet so here's one now because I'd like to remove that tag:

• Oppose merge: two different topics. Virtuality Continuum is not about hybrid reality but about how (roughly speaking) reality is altered by virtuality. --Fixuture (talk) 19:58, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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Rename to Modified Reality?

An idea of [modified reality] has been discussed, which seems to be a more general concept than "mixed reality". Unlike augmented reality, the concept of modified reality relies on the making any transformations to sensory inputs necessary to convert it into a new reality derived from the real reality and the transformations to it.

It's different from augmented reality, because it is not a mere overlay onto real reality. Hybrid reality, as described in the article, could be achieved through both AR (augmented reality) and MR (modified reality) approaches, cause either of the paradigms of mixing realities could allow one to achieve existence of real and virtual items in the same environment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 54.65.0.74 (talk) 13:29, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

As said above, this page should be renamed to "Modified Reality" or something like that, and a new page about mixed reality should be created with a definition more like the top answer in [this thread].Hannnes1 (talk) 16:07, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

• CNN on the HoloLens: "When Microsoft first unveiled a rough version of its augmented reality technology in 2015 — which the company insists on calling "mixed reality" — it was genuinely mind-blowing." Clearly mixed reality and augmented are the same in general usage now.Malick78 (talk) 15:17, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

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Differing Notions of Mixed Reality

I've conducted research in a mixed reality lab at the University of Michigan over the past years. The findings of our group have recently been published at the ACM Conference on Human Factors in Computing Systems: http://michael-nebeling.de/publications/chi19b.pdf

The paper's main conclusion is that there is no universally accepted definition of mixed reality and instead, six partially competing notions are popular in both academia and industry. Therefore, I'd like to propose the following changes to the article to reflect this latest state of research:

• Change the definition of MR in the "AR vs. VR vs. MR" section, since it is not exhaustive. For instance, we could say: Mixed reality (MR) is a broader concept than augmented reality, as it also includes augmented virtuality (a mostly virtual environment with some real parts) and a variety of differing notions used in research and practice. It can moreover refer to specific soft- and/or hardware, such as Windows Mixed Reality.

• Add the following to the "Definition" section: Mixed reality comprises a total of six different (and partly competing) notions that are actively used in research and practice, the above definition by Milgram and Kishino being only one of them. The other notions in use are: mixed reality as a synonym for augmented reality; mixed reality as a type of collaboration (e.g., between a virtual reality user and an augmented reality user who are physically separated); mixed reality as a combination of augmented and virtual reality in the same application or system; mixed reality as an alignment of environments (e.g., tracking the state of a real environment and updating a virtual environment accordingly); and mixed reality as a "stronger" version of augmented reality, with advanced interactions and environmental understanding. Based on these notions, mixed reality experiences can be unambiguously classified along seven dimensions: the number of environments, the number of users, the level of immersion, the level of virtuality, the degree of interaction, input and output, whereas the latter two are not restricted to the visual sense, but can also include, e.g., audio, haptics, taste/flavor, smell, and motion.

Moreover, there is a reference model for augmented and mixed reality by the ISO that should maybe be mentioned in the introductory paragraph: https://www.iso.org/standard/30824.html

Thanks,

--MaxSp (talk) 11:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

This should definitley be included in the main article. Nowadays the term "mixed reality" is being used with different meanings, and there is no general consensus on which is the "correct" one. I've just checked this article and I think it well describes the several ways "mixed reality" is used today. The wikipedia main article in its current form is extremely confusing, and would benefit from a rewrite including this reference. 158.110.144.102 (talk) 11:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

References

Reply 16-MAY-2019

  Unable to implement  

• The requested changes require consensus amongst local editors on whether the desired changes are needed.

Regards,  Spintendo  16:03, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Reply 19-AUGUST-2019

Since I'm not familiar with the exact process yet: What would be specific next steps for me to take? Who are the "local editors"?

Thanks, MaxSp (talk) 07:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

XR

Relation to XR (extended reality). AR, VR, AV are covered. [1] Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 16:29, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Issues with blended space subsection

There appears to be several overlapping terms for one concept which is covered here under "Blended Spaces." The sources used in this section are all relatively old (close to 10 years old or older) and a lot has happened since then.

The other terms which appear throughout the literature include merged reality and virtual interactive presence. For example, see here, here, here, here, here, and here.

Looking at the redirect of blended space to here (see Talk:Blended_space), it seems that it was undertaken by Rosedaler last year without any discussion or consensus. I do agree that there is a large amount of overlap, but taken together with the more recent literature on merged reality/virtual presence, blended spaces does appear to deserve its own article. A search on Google Scholar for the term "blended space" gives close to 2,500 results with thousands of citations across a wide range of disciplines including computer science, semiotics, gender studies, linguistics, political science, cognitive theory, literary theory, and other fields. I honestly don't understand how this article could be deleted and redirected here without an AfD discussion.

Virtual interactive presence or merged reality are more precise terms and basically cover all of the same instances of technology as blended spaces, without the potential for confusion that arises with a broad term which is used across multiple disciplines.

I also question how appropriate it is to have the extended theoretical discussion from the work of Fauconnier and Turner in this article. This theoretical discussion seems out of place under "Applications." Most of the applications such as military, healthcare, etc. are actual instances of mixed reality technology while blended spaces is more of a category of its own encompassing multiple diverse ideas and technologies, even if it does overlap to a large extent with mixed reality.

So I would propose reversing the redirect and expand on the concept of blended spaces in the original article. If a section on blended space is included, I would propose that it be trimmed down and be prefaced with a link to the main article. As for actually describing the instances of technologies that fall under the label of blended spaces, a section on merged reality or virtual interactive presence would be much more targeted for specific instances of mixed reality without turning the article into a theoretical jumble. Chagropango (talk) 19:38, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Mixed Reality Spectrum

I am currently taking a Coursera course from the University of Michigan called "Intro to AR/VR/AV/XR: Technologies, Applications, & Issues [2]. The course is about trying to define the various different technologies and Dr. Michael Nebeling [3] (the course instructor) defines Mixed Reality as more of a spectrum much like https://xinreality.com/wiki/Main_Page does. I was wondering if we could make that perspective a more prominent idea on this page. Actually, I found that page as I was writing this post and I'm a bit confused why that website isn't just part of Wikipedia already.

Side note: This is my first post on Wikipedia. I'm excited to join you all! MockingMockingBird (talk) 01:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Alright, I'm not getting any feedback so I'm going to start working on this on my own to implement some of my ideas. MockingMockingBird (talk) 20:36, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Just make sure everything is based on reliable sources - Wikipedia cannot use other wikis such as the one you link as a source. See WP:RS, WP:V, WP:NOR. MrOllie (talk) 20:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Yup! Wasn't intending to. Again, I'm really new to this so if you see I messed something up please let me know. MockingMockingBird (talk) 22:28, 20 December 2023 (UTC)