Talk:Margraviate of Moravia

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 16:48, 16 April 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Moravian Margraviate → Margraviate of Moravia – It's what the discussion at Talk:History of the state in Moravia#Requested move 2012 suggests should be the title by consensus. Srnec (talk) 00:57, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

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• Strong Support - The present title isn’t wrong, but it also isn’t the most common. The proposed would do nicely. RGloucester (talk) 22:38, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

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IP edit

In infobox, I noticed that as official languages are showed: "Moravian dialect of Czech", "Polish", "German". If there are written "Moravian dialect of Czech", it would be more accurate to written also MORAVIAN DIALECTS of German and MORAVIAN DIALECTS of Polish. It is quite obvious, that common language in Margraviate of Moravia was not a Hochdeutsch or standard literary Polish, but instead local dialects of these languages (just like Czech). Because of this, I corrected the notion in infobox to: "Moravian dialects of Czech, Polish and German". And in my humble oppinion, the German should be written before Polish. Actually, the number of Polish speakers in margraviate was quite negligible (Duchy of Teschen was part of Silesia, not Moravia). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1028:919D:9726:1945:45C1:5071:BD23 (talk) 19:36, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

It is nonesense to call Margraviate of Moravia a marcher state. Moravia was maybe called margraviate (as was called also for instance Brandenburg), but Moravia NEVER EVER functioned as marcher state (i e highly militarized entity established in order to protect borders of some bigger state). Moravia began to be called margraviate several centuries after real marches were established, as for instance Brandenburg or Austria. And at the time when Margraviate of Moravia was established, these states (Brandenburg or Austria) ceased to function as marches long time ago. So at the time Moravia was established as margraviate, margrave was just another royal title without any implication, that his realm is any form of marcher state. So it doesnt give any sense to call Margraviate of Moravia a marcher state. It never functioned as march. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1028:96CA:4526:65C3:4AA0:BC8:6501 (talk) 22:46, 29 January 2019 (UTC)