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Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Current DYK

  • ... that social media influencer Andrew Tate described himself as "absolutely a misogynist"?. Per WP:DYKBLP, Hooks that unduly focus on negative aspects of living persons should be avoided.
If we go to the article, the statement has two sources. The latter, from The Independent, states In a video shared to his new website on Wednesday (23 August), Tate claimed that many of the criticisms levied at him are based on clips that have been “taken out of context”.
There was a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know/Archive_198#Andrew_Tate_nomination where this was decided upon, but of the four editors who stated this was a good hook (Courtesy ping @Guerillero, Valereee, Lightburst, and Bome sall 1:), I don't know if any saw Tate's statement about out of context quotes. Sincerely, Dilettante 18:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have reported this casual disregard for both WP:BLP policy and common sense at WP:ANI. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think the issue was discussed quite a bit. Tate said he was "absolutely a misogynist" and that isn't a denial -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 18:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
the quote from the Independent doesn't and wasn't meant to directly address this quote. There's nothing undue about the hook, it represents the center and vast majority of RS coverage – especially when you consider that we kindly did not mention the sex trafficking charge. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:29, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
But he does criticize out of context quotes, which this is. Sincerely, Dilettante 18:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
You can’t slander me because I will state right now that I am absolutely sexist and I’m absolutely a misogynist, and I have fuck you money and you can’t take that away is the full quote and there is no indication that he has ever disputed it. A blanket "some things are out of context" from the day before the article was written isn't refuting it. -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 18:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Dilettante, can you point to something that shows us this is out of context? I mean, did he say, "I was in a toxic relationship, and I was thinking 'You can’t slander me because I will state right now that I am absolutely sexist and I’m absolutely a misogynist, and I have fuck you money and you can’t take that away", and then I realized it was a me problem, not a them problem' or something? Valereee (talk) 18:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
The video is self-contradictory. I don't have the time or the inclination to watch the full hour and find the quote, but he also says "No woman is alleging that I am a bad person or misogynist" [1] (not an RS), and that "he believes in "protecting women" and "championing women," and believes that "a man has certain roles in society, and a woman has certain roles in society.""[2] Whether or not I doubt the existence of his misogyny, it's certainly more complex than the quote reveals. It really wouldn't be hard to blurb something about his kickboxing or something else uncontroversial instead. Sincerely, Dilettante 19:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Given the long and thorough discussion at WT:DYK, I'm inclined to say that this hook is fine as is. Schwede66 19:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'd be fine with an independent party deleting my report and subsequent replies. It's clear it won't be changed or pulled and this discussion (and the parallel ANI) is generating more heat than light. Sincerely, Dilettante 19:20, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Dilettante, this page gets wiped once a day or so anyway. No archives are kept. I'd say we keep this here until midnight UTC (i.e. for 3 more hours) as this topic might get raised again by others. Schwede66 21:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm aware. I was proposing an early wipe but I understand your point about keeping it. Sincerely, Dilettante 21:17, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Next DYK

  • "that even though about 100,000 bombs fell on Le Touquet during World War II, making it "the most mined city in France ...". My reading of the article is that the 100,000 refers to mines (i.e. explosive devices planted carefully by hand designed to explode when the enemy encounters them), not to bombs dropped from aeroplanes. So the hook needs a rewrite or to be cut. JMCHutchinson (talk) 21:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Errors in "On this day"

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  • 1743 – War of the Austrian SuccessionHabsburg ruler Maria Theresa was crowned Queen of Bohemia after driving French troops from the territory. — All by herself? Suggest "War of the Austrian Succession: Habsburg ruler Maria Theresa was crowned Queen of Bohemia after Austrian forces drove French troops from the territory." - Sca (talk) 13:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
      Done (some time ago) Schwede66 18:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • The photo ("B-17 bombers intercepting the Rex") fails the OTD guideline of the subject should be easily distinguished at [150px wide]. I had to blow the photo up to full size to even see that there were airplanes in it. RoySmith (talk) 21:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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"Головна сторінка" listed at Redirects for discussion

  The redirect Головна сторінка has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 3 § Головна сторінка until a consensus is reached. Fork99 (talk) 11:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply