Talk:Lady Madonna

Sublime

Doesn't the Sublime song "What I Got" have a similar melody to Lady Madonna?

===The Sublime article makes that reference too; it's clearly a nod to Lady Madonna. If it could be cited, maybe it should be added to the article somewhere that this song influenced that one. 162.136.192.1 (talk) 22:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Relevancy

The relevancy of the last paragraph was inconsistent with the former part of the article. I found its information erroneous and superfluous; it did not contribute in any way to the article. It needs more content about the story behind the song rather than a tangent about another completely different song by a different artist.

Music Theory is SOOO USEFUL!

I don't know WHAT i'd do if I didn't know that song begins on the "subdominant minor." Can't you just say piano in A? If only I could listen to music like you do, instead of hearing notes, I'd hear STANDARD II-V-I PROGRESSION IN THE RELATIVE MAJOR OF C.

Information

Is the information wrong? I don't believe it's wikipedia policy to remove stuff because you don't understand it.

Whether understanding musical theory enhances your enjoyment of music is a totally separate and irrelevant debate, and I don't give a shit whether your life is enhanced by it or not. Unless there is some broader policy that I'm unaware of that prohibits the description of music in musical language, then I think your deletion is groundless.

Actually, this is an encyclopedia, or that's what it is supposed to be anyway, meaning that it covers basic knowledge only. Therefore, in this topic, it shouldn't go too deep into the theory of the song, at least not to the point where it is incomprehensible by others. andrewlargemanjones

Go read any good Wikipedia article on math or science, and tell me it's "basic knowledge" that's likely to be comprehensible "by others"--by which you probably mean other average people such as yourself--by which you mean the music theory should be removed because you don't understand it. That is total crap.

Will someone with the appropriate knowledge please restore the music theoretical description of this song? 71.215.84.21 (talk) 05:00, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I felt cheated that there was no theory in the article, because so many Beatles songs actually are theoretically interesting. Theory terms can always be linked. Just keep the jargon in its own section so it doesn't ruin the song for those who don't follow the technical stuff. Huw Powell (talk) 01:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

George Harrison or Paul McCartney

Somebody read the article again. It says the song is written by George Harrison but that Paul McCartney is its main composer. Somebody who knows who wrote this song fix this inconsistency.

There is no inconsistency.

"Composer" (writes the melody) and "Lyricist" (writes the lyrics) are not necessarily the same person. MCSmarties 02:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

There is even less inconsistency because the article doesn't say that George wrote Lady Madonna only that he wrote The Inner Light which was on the B-side of the single. Have to admit I've read it the wrong way on the first try too. It should be reworded (who wrote the song on the B-side is not the most important fact about Lady Madonna) or info on who actually wrote the lyrics should be added. --Cyhawk 17:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Saxophone

I'm currently reading a book titled "This is your Brain on Music" by Daniel Levitin. He mentions that the saxophone sound is taken from the Beatles singing into their cupped hands (page 105 of the book, for anyone who has it). Can someone confirm this, as it currently conflicts with what is already here. I think maybe he's referring to the sounds in the background of the main sax. --WallaWalla23 19:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Answer: What you are hearing is not the saxophone. You are in fact hearing the Beatles singing into their hands. What the article is referring to is the short saxophone solo at the end of the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.199.49 (talk) 16:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

The Beatles did originally do a "kazoo" solo - I think using combs and EMI toilet paper(!) but decided to replace it with real sax, played by Ronnie Scott ISTR. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.109.87.65 (talk) 11:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Answer to the answer: Wrong. There is sax in there as well as the cupped hands singing. It's mixed down and that was what McCartney was talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.213.75 (talk) 02:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I've always thought "muted trumpets", not saxophones, for the imitation part. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:13, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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Added fair use rationale. John Cardinal 00:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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WHO IS SINGING IT

The article should state who actually sang the song, as should all articles on Beatles songs. Tom Green (talk) 16:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Sax players

According to This, Ronnie Scott wasn't the only sax player on this recording; there were four players, and Harry Klein was another one of them. Chubbles (talk) 13:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Who is Lady Madonna?

What's the explanation for Lady Madonna? Is the similarity of name to the Catholic Madonna purely coincidental? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.171.29 (talk) 14:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

About Lady Madonna

The quote: "the song was recorded during the filming of the "Lady Madonna" promotional video, and is one of the few Beatles' songs to revolve around a piano riff." is wrong. Its actually vice-versa. The "Lady Madonna" video was put together using footage from the "Hey Bulldog" recording session. When watching the Lady Madonna video you can see the playing and the lyrics dont match the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfthrizXKOM 83.253.32.171 83.253.32.171 (talk) 18:32, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Compare the above Lady Madonna video with the Hey Bulldog video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WBelmO65J4

83.253.32.171 (talk) 18:32, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Is there any sourced documentation that it is wrong on is it more of an opinion? Housewatcher (talk) 21:19, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Lewisohn mentions it in the Sessions and 'Chronicle' books, neither of which I have available right now. However, the filming was done during the recording of 'Hey Bulldog'; the footage was used to promote 'Lady Madonna', which was the A-side, and then re-edited for the video when the Yellow Submarine 'Songtrack' album was released, as it was the A-side that time. Radiopathy •talk• 23:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

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The current (25-Oct-2017) second citation link (http://oldies.about.com/od/thebeatlessongs/a/ladymadonna.htm) gives a 404 error. I'm not sure if there is a new page that supports whatever was on the page before. The link should be removed which means some of the cited statements have no supporting documentation. Furthermore, is about.com considered a viable and rigorous citation? 149.68.240.224 (talk) 21:11, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it looks very dead. The website about.com now redirects to dotdash.com, so maybe the material is there? But a quick Google search for that title and author produced nothing. The ref has an access date of 27 January 2013. The material supported (chart positions) should be easily sourceable elsewhere. We don't need refs in the lede, as long as all the material is supported lower down. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:23, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

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Title?

I've just been looking at an auction of Beatle singles and I've noticed that the single cover has the title as "The Lady Madonna". Does anyone know how a mistake like that slipped through the EMI quality control?

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