Talk:Kazi Nazrul Islam

date of birth

nazrul.org says the date of birth is May 24, 1899; NOT Mayb 25, 1899. Can anyone verify this info and correct it? --149.169.24.205 00:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

It is May 24, please provide reference, be bold and change that. --Tito Dutta (Talk) 13:18, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

• Asiatic Society says Nazrul born on 24th May 1899. But wiki Article says 25.

All of the Bangladeshi Article says it's 25th.

• The Daily Star
• Daily Sun

I think the problem occurred because Bengali year starts in India a day after starting in Bangladesh. রাহাত | ✉ 18:54, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

older entries

"I HAVE ASKED MY RELATIVES TO REFUSE THAT MONEY." why is this is boldface? obviously Nazrul didn't do it himself?--ppm 01:07, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

edits

i'm quietly making improvements by carrying out light copyediting duties on this page. it needs it!  ^{J O I B A N G L A !}Aloodum 00:41, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I think we need more photos of Nazrul. There are many on the web, but we need those that are in the public domain. --Ragib 01:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I have been lazy and am only doing editing duties!  ^{J O I B A N G L A !}Aloodum 17:37, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

bangla

it would be better if anyone could the "bhanga shikol" poem in bengali. I tried adding it but my bangla isn't that good and so backed down. এই সিকল ভাঙ্গা ছল, মোদের এই সকল ভাঙ্গা ছল
এই সিকল পরেই সিকল তোদের করবরে বিকল
Hikingdom 03:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Here are the 1st two lines:
এই শিকল পরা ছল, মোদের এই শিকল পরা ছল
এই শিকল পরেই শিকল তোদের করব রে বিকল --ppm 22:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Is this relevant?

Think about it, someone named his son and people are digging conspiracy from it. I haven't read any autobiography that states the person's naming of his son.Zahidbuet 09:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Just wondering, Aniruddha, Shobbochachi, Bulbul etc all are Bengali names. Are they Sanskrit names? Also, didn't he also have a daughter? Hikingdom 12:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes these names "Anirudhha" (Never denied), "Sabyasaachi" (Perfect aimer - salutation to Arjuna the master archer from Mahabharata)are Sanskrit names that have found their place in Bengali as Bengali is a language descending from Sanscrit like Hindi and Assamese and other Indian languages. The name "Bulbul" (Nightingale) is a Persian word. LutfullahLutfullah (talk) 13:22, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

May be, someone was trying to say that he didn't named from Arabic or Farsi. Think about it, Nazrul was never communal. He was a poet of the world, not of any community (Said by him in a speech). Zahid 16:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I also think that. I don't think we need to prove Nazrul's humanity, brotherhood and Bengalism the way he and his wife named his kids. That line is very umimportant in this article. Mukerjee might want to reconsider that line or reword it. Hikingdom 16:21, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

My mistake, Nazrul did not have a daughter. I was thinking that Khilkhil Kazi was Nazrul's daughter but she is really grand-daughter. :-)Hikingdom 02:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you. Thanks Hikingdom. Zahid 07:02, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Nazrul in Jail...

Somewhere in the article it is mentioned that Nazrul held a 40-day fast in jail to protest mistreatment. Well, I got a very different impression from parts of the famous 20th century Bengali humourist and author Shibram Chokrobortee's autobiography. He was Nazrul's contemporary and jailmate. According to him it was quite the opposite. I just uploaded the relevant excerpts onto a free site of mine for your consideration. Please find the excerpts here: http://www.geocities.com/monmajhi/ .

One other point : I found most English translations of the poem "Bidrohi" (The Rebel) extremely unsatisfactory and wanting. Almost all of them have miserably failed to capture the flow, vigour and zest of the original. Only one so far, in my view, has succeeded in approximating any semblance of the original's spirit at all -- and I've uploaded this translation too for the editors' consideration. If you agree with me, and if relevant constraints permit, may be you can use some excerpts from it in the article here. --Monmajhi 16:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I couldn't find the excerpt, I wonder if it is buried somewhere in the link you provide. Nazrul's 40-day fast is a rather famous event, prompting Tagore to send a request to stop it, Nazrul's friend Nalinikanta Sarkar breaking into jail to request the same, and finally (I believe) Pramila's mother being able to make him give up the fast.--ppm 01:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I completely missed the pdf file, I apologize. Now, that was another time :)....Nazrul was a regular visitor to multiple jails all over the country :)--ppm 01:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Rebellion against what ?

I don't like this line in the very first paragraph of the article : "...who is best known for pioneering works in Bengali expressing fierce rebellion against society, tradition, politics, injustice, intolerance and oppression". Sounds pretty confusing to me. Perhaps a bit pompous too . I thought anybody who is fiercely rebellious towards organized society is called an "anti-social" person. Was Nazrul an anti-social person ? Was he indiscriminately against all 'tradition' and 'politics' ? Was he against 'tradition' or 'politics' itself ? Was his oppsition, if any, a blanket-opposition ? The answer to all these questions is NO. Yet, this line gives almost the opposite impression. Nazrul wasn't rebellious against the 'Society' itself, he was against many social ills. He wasn't against tradition and politics either, but only against the negative, retrogressive or harmful sides of the two. In fact, his poetry effusively celebrates many traditions, and even some politics. Finally, the line quoted above gives one the idea, even if unwittingly, that "society, tradition, politics, injustice, intolerance and oppression" are essentially all one and the same thing. This is a very misleading and warped POV. This muddled sentence needs serious correction. Perhaps it could be written like this : "... expressing fierce rebellion against social ills, stagnant (or regressive) traditions, unprincipled or parochial politics, injustice, intolerance and oppression." My suggestion further complicates the already long & winding sentence though. Any better suggestion ?

This is really important because it is THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the article !!

--Monmajhi 22:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, and I am simplifying this. KZN was many things, but I think his other identities are subsumed by his poetry. The first line should say this in clearer unhindered prose. Mukerjee (Talk) 16:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Fixed a number of other lacunae - poetry quotes as poetry; the excellent references introduced by Rama's arrow - were being fully repeated time and again; compacted them using the name reference; compacted some other parts; the article is already too long and tends to throw off the reader - brought down from 46K to 43K; the lead focuses on too many points not relevant to his literary life; abbreviated. Mukerjee (Talk) 04:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mukerjee - I appreciate the improvements but the lead is supposed to be a summary of the article, so its ok if some points are repeated. I have to reinsert the first para becoz the present situation is disjointed. Don't worry about the length, though I agree that Persian/Sanskrit are not necessary to mention in the lead. Thanks, Rama's arrow 15:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Question

First we start with:

However, most of his descriptions of women do not exceed beyond homely roles.[14] His poetry retains long-standing notions of men and women in binary opposition to one another and does not affirm gender similarities and flexibility in the social structure:

Then we go conclude:

Nazrul is hailed for his sincere conviction in the liberation of women. His poems explored the independence of a woman's mind and the ability to perform diverse roles in society.[16] His vision of gender equality was powerfully expressed in his poem "Woman."[17]

Some one could shed some truth?--Jahilia 19:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

It seems that the first quote is better-supported. I couldn't find much in the second source to support the statement. Brutannica 20:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... then should we go ahead and remove this text?--Jahilia 09:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Fixing

Can someone find sources for a lot of the things in the article? Eg, Source 5 only links to the front page of a website but not the contents of the actual pages that were used for the source. Another thing was that one of the sources was an essay by McDaniel that had yet to be published in an academic book or a journal, however, the essay transcript was used for a large part of the scholarly analysis, which is a problem. Another thing is that there is inconsistency as to whether quotation marks or italics are used for poems and nicknames. I have already grouped the repeated citations and fixed up some of the errors in there. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Per a RSN discussion, it appears that conference talks are not RS unless the contents are later peer reviewed and authorised for formal journal/book publishing. The paper given by Mr Ahsanuzzaman are given verbatim on the website and the conference people said that they aren't responsible for its contents. For example, the title has a clear grammar error and many sentences have major grammar errors as well. Another thing is that in the other blog interview linked, which is apparently from 2008, it says that the author is currently a masters student, which means that he was very likely a undergraduate student in 2003 when this essay was published. So it doesn't appear to be RS and certainly there are more notable books by notable professors printed on this famous poet. This is the same for the piece by June McDaniel, who is a professor, but her talk was not published/peer reviewed: CV here. In any case, the paper couldn't be found so that it could be verified. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Nazrul.org has been removed because it only points to the front page and doesn't verify anything. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

There was not alternative without rewriting some sentences/paras. I hope, we have completed our article for FA status. --Anwarul Islam (talk) 14:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Legacy: "banned Dhumketu"

I've removed from the "Legacy" section the sentence:

British government banned the magazine of Nazrul named Dhumketu because of publishing a political poem "Anondomoyeer Agomone" on September 26, 1922.

The cited source (dead, but archived at blacklisted archive dot is) does say this, but Banglapedia says only that the issue containing the poem was proscribed, and more recent articles: "Tribute to the Rebel Poet". The New Nation. 27 May 2015., "39th death anniversary of Bangladesh's National Poet Nazrul today". The Daily Star. 27 August 2015., and Kamol, Ershad (27 August 2015). "Nazrul's death anniv today". New Age. emphasize Nazrul's arrest and imprisonment without saying anything about the effect on the magazine.

Whether the entire magazine or that one issue of it was banned (and because the first interpretation appears in only one source and in rather shaky English, I'm skeptical that it's reliable for that fact), the sentence is out of place in the "Legacy" section of the article. Other writings of Nazrul's were banned too; there's no reason to single out the banning of this piece. Furthermore, consensus seems to be that the importance of this episode lies in Nazrul's arrest, conviction, and imprisonment, which is already well covered in the "Revolutionary" section. Worldbruce (talk) 02:55, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

from main article

Come back my birdie! Come back again to my empty bosom! Shunno e bookey paakhi mor aaye! Phirey aaye phirey aaye!

Let people of all countries and all times come together. At one great union of humanity. Let them listen to the flute music of one great unity. Should a single person be hurt, all hearts should feel it equally. If one person is insulted; it is a shame to all mankind, an insult to all! Today is the grand uprising of the agony of universal man.

The badnaa, a water jug typical in usage by Bengali Muslims for ablutions (wazu) and bath (ghusl) and the gaaru a water pot typical in usage by Bengali Hindus, meet and embrace each other under the peace of the new pact (between the rioting Hindus and Muslims in Bengal during the British Raj on certain politico-religious differences and disputes that had preceded the said pact). There is no knife in the hand of the Muslim and also the Hindu does not wield the bamboo any more! Bodna gaaru te kolakuli korey! Nobo pact er aashnaai! Musholmaaner haatey naai chhuri! Hindur haatey baansh naai!

References

A question following GOCE Copy-edit

In response to a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, I have completed a copy-edit of Kazi Nazrul Islam. I have a question:

I'd like to know if the first blockquote in Kazi Nazrul Islam#Religious beliefs, which is clearly a translation, appears like this in the source, or if it is an informal translation not taken directly from a source. If it appears like this in the source, we have to leave it as it is. If it is an informal translation, then we can edit it. It is full of spelling and grammatical errors. Corinne (talk) 03:25, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Corinne for a job well done. Much appreciated. I am not sure; since it does not name the translator, it could be informal. Do you think this article is GA ready and if not what can I do to improve it. Any and all advice is welcome. Thanks. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 05:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Vinegarymass911 Thanks! I am not an experienced reviewer, so I'm not familiar with the specific things reviewers look for (except for well-written prose and consistency in date styles, English spelling style, etc.), but upon looking at the article again just now, I see some things that could be made clearer:

1) In the lead, you mentioned that Nasrul is Bangladesh's national poet two times. I think only once is sufficient. I think it should be near the beginning of the article, so I removed the second mention.

Upon removing the second mention,  – "he is officialy recognised as the National Poet of Bangladesh" – (since you have said this already), what is left of the sentence did not contain a mention of how Nazrul is revered even today in Bangladesh; it skipped right to India. I thought it was worth mentioning, so I added that to the sentence. You'll see I did a little re-arranging of the lead.

2) I found the sentence later on in the article (in the "Legacy" section) that said he was conferred the title of national poet of Bangladesh, but it doesn't say when, or whether there was any kind of ceremony. I think it should at least say in what year this occurred.

3) In the lead you say (in the sentence I modified yesterday), that he "launched an Indo-Islamic cultural renaissance". I see some mention of this in more than one section, but I don't recall reading about any specific writers or musicians that he influenced (as part of this Indo-Islamic renaissance). If there were some, perhaps a few could be mentioned.

4) You use the phrase "mass music", and there is even a section with this as the heading. I'm not sure this is the right phrase. Jerome Kohl Can you think of a better phrase? Corinne (talk) 19:43, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

This expression is cited to a source, which might be the best reason not to change it. The context makes the sense clear, though I agree it is ambiguous. The first thing that pops into my mind when seeing this is music for the (Catholic) mass. "Music of (or for) the masses" is unambiguous, and would be preferable if the sources permit it. (There is also a third sense of "mass music", which is music involving dense crowds of notes, but this is usually avoided for exactly the same reason, in favour of "statistical music", "sound clouds", or something similar.)—Jerome Kohl (talk) 19:54, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Corinne for the helpful suggestions. I have either implemented them or on the way to do so. Cheers. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 22:21, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

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References

Poor use of Sugata Bose's A Hundred Horizons

Sugata Bose's A Hundred Horizons is cited near the end of this paragraph:

Nazrul reached the peak of his fame in 1922 with Bidrohi (The Rebel), which remains his most famous work, winning the admiration of India's literary society for his description of a rebel. Published in the Bijli (বিজলী, "Lightning") magazine, the rebellious language and theme were well received, coinciding with the Non-Cooperation Movement – the first mass nationalist campaign of civil disobedience against British rule. Nazrul explores the different forces at work in a rebel, the destroyer, and the preserver who is able to express rage as well as beauty and sensitivity. He followed up by writing Pralayollas ('Destructive Euphoria'), and his first anthology of poems, the Agni-veena ("অগ্নি-বীণা", 'Lyre of Fire') in 1922, which enjoyed commercial and critical success. He also published his first volume of short stories, the Byathar Dan "ব্যথার দান" ('Gift of Sorrow'), and Yugbani ("যুগবাণী"), an anthology of essays.

Bose supports a tiny piece of this, only that Byathar Dan translates as 'Gift of Sorrow'. It contradicts the publication date (1922) implied by the order of the sentences here, saying instead that the book was published in March 1920 (and evidently serialized earlier). Furthermore, page 131 of Bose describes Byathar Dan as a novella, which also contradicts its description here as a volume of short stories.

Recommendations:

• Move the Bengali-script titles of his works (e.g. "ব্যথার দান") out of the body text to the more specialized List of works by Kazi Nazrul Islam, where Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists of works#Books in languages other than English encourages their presence. If Bose is anything to go by, reliable English-language sources use only the transliteration followed by the translation in parentheses. That would accord with the spirit of Wikipedia:Writing better articles#Use other languages sparingly, which discourages interrupting the reader's flow.
• Consult authoritative sources on Kazi Nazrul Islam to resolve the discrepancies about when Byathar Dan was published and what form it took. Also, when it was written may be as or more important to his biography.
• Pages 130-133 of Bose (and the four corresponding footnotes on page 299) are about Kazi Nazrul Islam. They briefly cover his life from 1917 through 1921, and are potentially useful material. If the information presents a common view of him more clearly than well regarded biographies, or presents a unique view of him, then make use of those pages and cite them (I can send the pages to anyone willing to undertake the work). There's no question that Kazi Nazrul Islam is notable, however, so there's no need to cite everyone who mentions him. Don't cite Bose just because it comes up as a Google hit or because Bose is notable. Better to base the article as much as possible on the handful of preeminent Kazi Nazrul Islam experts. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

References

Political capital off-topic

The Career section, when describing Calcutta as the cultural capital of India, includes the parenthetical statement "(it stopped being the political capital of India in 1911)". For this it cites Peter Hall's Cities of Tomorrow, pp. 198-206. Nine pages is a lot for such a small statement. There isn't anything about Calcutta in those page of my copy (1st ed., 1988, ISBN 0-631-13444-1), but on page 184 it says, "At his Coronation Durbar in 1911, George V made the momentous announcement that the capital of British India would be transferred from Calcutta to Delhi ... [New Delhi took] twenty years to finish."

Whether this supports the article text depends on what "stopped being" means. Perhaps at the instant of the announcement it ceased to be the titular capital, but moving the government didn't happen overnight. The site for New Delhi wasn't chosen until 1913, and in 1920, when Kazi Nazrul Islam moved to Calcutta, the inauguration of New Delhi was still eleven years away. Perhaps government used temporary quarters in Delhi while New Delhi was under construction, or moved to New Delhi piecemeal as facilities were completed, but it seem unlikely that the transfer was complete by 1920.

One could clarify the wording and fix the cited page, but the whole question of political capital is a distracting tangent in Kazi Nazrul Islam's biography. It's irrelevant whether or to what degree Calcutta was the political capital at that time. What is important for the biography of a cultural figure is that he moved to the cultural capital. The article demonstrates Calcutta's cultural importance by describing the organizations and luminaries with whom he interacted there (and that could bear to be expanded a little). I recommend removing the parenthetical statement about the political capital along with its source, in order to stick to the point. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:17, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

No one has objected, so I've removed the off-topic parenthetical as proposed. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:42, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Removed from text and kept here for further use and record

I can tolerate Hinduism and Muslims but I cannot tolerate the Tikism (a tiki is a tuft of never cut hair kept on the head by certain Hindus to maintain personal Holiness) and beardism. Tiki is not Hinduism. It may be the sign of the pundit. Similarly beard is not Islam, it may be the sign of the mollah. All the hair-pulling have originated from those two tufts of hair. Today's fighting is also between the Pundit and the Mollah: It is not between the Hindus and the Muslims. No prophet has said, "I have come for Hindus I have come for Muslims I have come for Christians." They have said, "I have come for the humanity for everyone, like light." But the devotees of Krishna says, "Krishna is for Hindus." The followers of Muhammad says, "Muhammad is for the Muslims." The Disciple of Christ (say Christ) is for Christians. Krishna-Muhammad-Christ have become national property. This property is the root of all trouble. Men do not quarrel for light but they quarrel over cattle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinegarymass911 (talk • contribs) 09:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Date of Death of Poet Nazrul

In article written in wikipedia the date of death of poet Kazi Nazrul Islam is written 29 August in 1976 in Bangladesh. Today is 27 August 2019 and 12 Bhadra of Bengali era. The poet's death anniversary is officially observed as per Bengali ara today on 12 Bhadra and the English date falls on 27 August.

Would you please mention both Bengali calendar date followed by Bangladesh since the poet went on grave with Bangladeshi Citizenship. Regards. ... (talk) 10:12, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Revert

Trying to suppress he was an Indian independence activist is wrong. That was his major contribution. Plus, he was born in present day India, and had little control over the decision to migrate to Bangladesh in the last 4 years of his life, since he had picks disease. @Fylindfotberserk: can you give your opinion on this? This user Za-ari-masen is pushing an very nationalistic narrative and an alternative history. 2600:1001:B012:2F78:9E6:8068:F07C:1676 (talk) 13:03, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

There is no suppression, in fact his involvement with the revolutionary activities have been mentioned twice which itself could be argued superfluous. His primary identity was that he was Bengali poet. Your disruptive edits not only affecting the prose of the article but also demeaning this article from its Good Article status. Za-ari-masen (talk) 13:31, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

WP:ETHNICITY applies here too. So ethnicity should not be mentioned. He is notable for being a "Bengali-language poet", and not merely for being a Bengali. We should frame the lead as

Kazi Nazrul Islam was a Bengali-language poet, writer, musician, and Indian revolutionary, later, the national poet of Bangladesh. That way we'll abide by WP:ETHNICITY as well as emphasize on his notability as a Bengali-language poet. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:52, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

This edit is incorrect unless you want to push your nationalistic POV. There was no Bengal or Bangladesh that time. There was only Indian independence movement. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:57, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk:, I absolutely agree, he was mainly a Bengali language poet, thus, the lede has been changed here. (2600:1001:B015:87D5:7133:2AB:2703:E5E2 (talk) 20:49, 13 February 2020 (UTC))

Actually he was a Bangladeshi citizen at the time of his death and even the modern Indian sources call him a Bangladeshi poet. In any case, his primary identity was being a Bengali poet, musician and the national poet of Bangladesh. He did inspire Indian independence movement by writing several rebellious poems and songs but he was not an active revolutionary. It would be grossly misleading to call him an "Indian revolutionary". His involvement with the Indian independence movement though is already mentioned in the intro, so it's a bit of repetition as well. Za-ari-masen (talk) 19:40, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

I have reworded the lead per MOS:ETHNICITY. Ethnicity and previous nationalities or place of birth shouldn't be mentioned in the lead. He is most notable as the national poet of Bangladesh based on reliable sources. Please refer to Kazi Nazrul Islam: The Voice of Poetry and the Struggle for Human Wholeness by Winston Langley (2007) for reference. Za-ari-masen (talk) 19:57, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Citizenship of Kazi Najrul Islam

It was said that He was Bangladeshi Poet.But He was born Indian.His family didn't even moved to Pakistan after India's partition.Later in 1972 Poet's family was invited to Bangladesh.And he was awarded Bangladeshi citizenship.And by the rule of India,his Indian citizenship got cancelled.But We have to remember one thing that He was not mentally stable when this happened.He was not consciously Bangladeshi at all.But as his family had taken the responsibility of him,and they considered Bangladeshi Citizenship.We have to say he become Bangladeshi.But what we can never do is that WE CAN'T INTRODUCE HIM AS BANGLADESHI POET.We can say he was Indian and Bangldeshi or if you ask me we can conclude HE WAS BENGALI.Hence if my edit(changing from Bangladeshi Post to Bengali Poet) got deleted,I am gonna report against him to WIKIPEDIA. SoumyaIamBengali (talk) 13:24, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Original research: meter and words

The article combines statements from two sources:

1. "He has fabulously experimented with Arabic, Persian, and Sanskrit meters in his own works, producing superb rhythmic effects."
2. "He profusely used Arabic and Persian words in his poetry."

into a statement that is not supported by either source:

"He is also known to have experimented with Arabic, Persian, and Sanskrit words in his works to produce rhythmic effects."

Meter (poetry) is not the same as word origin. Latin poets borrowed Greek meters and used them with Latin words. Nazrul may have experimented with Persian meters and may have used Persian words profusely, but neither source says he used Persian words for any rhythmic effect they produce.

Also, there is some discussion in the body of his knowledge of and use of Persian, but the above sentence doesn't sum up anything in the body, so it doesn't belong in the lead. Finally, the sources, (1) a newspaper article quoting a self-proclaimed Nazrul expert who doesn't appear to have written any books or journal articles about Nazrul, and (2) a primary source research paper by two low profile academics who don't have a publication history on the subject of Nazrul, leave much to be desired. It would be better if the above sentence were removed. Perhaps it could be replaced by one summarizing what major scholarly books about Nazrul say about his work and Persian. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:03, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

@Worldbruce: I fully agree with you. It doesn't look convincing that he used these words to produce rhythmic effects in his poetry. We need to summarize real facts from the article body and use a better source like this written by Sajal Nag. - Ivan hersee (talk) 09:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, Nag's point of view is one that should be incorporated into the article. I suspect that Priti Kumar Mitra's 2009 book The dissent of Nazrul Islam : poetry and history ISBN 9780198063247 would also be a good source. Alas, at present all the libraries where I might obtain it are closed indefinitely, so it may be some time before I'm able to consult it. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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Jugol Konna

Sir missing you....Bisso bokkho hoite jugol konna kivabe chiniya anbo.....keu help korben ? 37.39.249.67 (talk) 05:00, 1 September 2022 (UTC)