Talk:John J. McNeill

Copyright violations

The text I attempted to remove is lifted from the NYTimes article cited. Please do not restore it. 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 04:12, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

There is more which I was unable to remove, copied from the National Catholic Reporter. 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 04:13, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

The first paragraph in "Career" is straight outta Miami Herald. 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 04:16, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

No it's not. Be more specific. I've fixed the obvious parts. If you see specific violation then flag them here rather than a blanket approach. Contaldo80 (talk) 00:15, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

It's 100% unvarnished blatant copy-paste copyvio. Do not restore it or you shall be sanctioned. 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 00:17, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

I think you need to demonstrate where it is copy and paste. That is not obvious to me. I've looked at the sources and can't see that. If you insist there are violations then flag them so we can all be clear. Don't, on the other hand, threaten me with sanctions without taking a constructive approach to fix the article. Thanks. Contaldo80 (talk) 00:21, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

I find it a bit suspicious that the editor who added the copyvio has come to defend it. Here's what the Earwig copyvio detector has to say. 67.1% intersection for the nytimes, and 55.4% intersection for the NCR. 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 00:21, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

The correct, constructive approach to repairing your violations of copyright are to throw them out and write them anew. I am not obligated to write them. You are welcome to do so, if you are not blocked for edit-warring and repeated copyright infringement. 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 00:32, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Maybe you should have taken a look at the amendments I made intended to ensure the article didn't do this. But I suspect you didn't look, you just reverted. Because that's your style - aggressive and rude. Contaldo80 (talk) 00:44, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Your edit was feeble, cosmetic, and superficial, compared to the profound and egregious ripoff that was perpetrated from the article sources. A complete rewrite is necessary, because the article, from the ground up, was taken directly out of the reporters' mouths, and attributed to yourself. 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 00:49, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Ok so now you're resorting to open abuse. The article was not taken out of reporters' mouths and I certainly can't claim credit for writing the article. Contaldo80 (talk) 00:54, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 26 March 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved back over redirect as a technical request to revert an undiscussed move. Original mover: feel free to start an RM to gain consensus for a move. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 18:10, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

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John J. McNeill (Catholic priest, theologian and author) → John McNeill (priest) – Without prejudice to John J. McNeill, the triplet parenthetical dab is overkill. 2600:8800:1880:FC:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 08:35, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps it is overkill (I tried to match the disambig detail of "John O'Neill", another common name). I'd suggest that your recent Wiki-dramatics are also overkill: anonymous editor "2600:8800:1800:FC: etc." shows up to throw out the entire article baby with its bathwater of several sloppy verbatim cites, and being verbally aggressive while doing it. I'll wait for the WP admin's decision, but this proves that Wikipedia is still a toxic "community", with its POV, copyright vios, fifth-grade writing skills, and a libertarian indulgence of real vandalism. Mason.Jones (talk) 15:17, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support per nom. The current disambiguator is far too verbose and unnecessary. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:24, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
• Move back to John J. McNeill per WP:OVERPRECISION, to revert the undiscussed move of last week. There is no other article titled John J. McNeill, which still redirects here anyway. Station1 (talk) 18:01, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

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Copyright problem removed

Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/article36352038.html, https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/26/nyregion/john-mcneill-priest-who-pushed-catholic-church-to-welcome-gays-dies-at-90.html?_r=0, https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/patron-saint-lgbt-catholics-john-j-mcneill-90-dies, https://web.archive.org/web/20150925184005/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-dr-nancy-wilson/catholics-lose-pioneer-ga_b_8189740.html. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)

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