Talk:Hypersomnia

Re-organization

I am proposing a major re-organisation of this page as much of it relates to a specific Sleep Disorder, Idiopathic Hypersomnia. Rather than grouping Idiopathic Hypersomnia and Hypersomnia together I am proposing that this becomes two pages. I am going to begin editing to reflect this. SleepyLloydy (talk) 03:43, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

I have created a page just for Idiopathic Hypersomnia. Would welcome comments on this idea, otherwise I will get to work on re-formatting the Hypersomnia page soon. Cheers, SleepyLloydy (talk) 08:29, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

I have re-written this page as per my two earlier messages. I hope my changes are acceptable - please let me know if they need modification. Thank you. SleepyLloydy (talk) 14:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

unipolar, mono

• Hypersomnia is identified as a symptom of bipolar depression more so than in people with unipolar depression.

It might be helpful to add that is has been proposed by some experts that hypersomnia can be a consequence of having mono. They have found several instances of patients coming to the sleep clinic at Riley Hospital in Indianapolis, IN who were afflicted with idiopathic hypersomnia and their symptoms had started after having mono. Often their symptoms lasted several years; some, however, have remained hypersomniacs. ---Blizpix 02:41, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

• If you can find a reference, it would probably be fine to add it. --Arcadian 15:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

• Here's a reference that states Bi-polar Disorder stating that Bi-polar a Bi-polar Major Depressive episode is marked by fatigue and other symptoms, with said fatigue a lot of times having to do with Hypersomnia: So, I assume I can add Bi-polar Disorder on the article, along with the source? --75.221.87.18 (talk) 18:04, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Famous people

This is very dangerous to list people who have hypersomia without any citations. Please find citations where it states that these indivdiuals have it, otherwise we need to be cautious and careful not to libel anybody. Hbdragon88 07:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I have created a List of people with idiopathic hypersomnia as a redirect. Hopefully this can be fleshed out as and when reliable citations become available for famous celebs with IH. SleepyLloydy (talk) 08:31, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

hypersomnolence ?

I don't think oversleeping should be redirected here at all. Find the specific item requested, not declare the disease from one symptom. Added by anon, unsigned.

I fully agree with that comment! Oversleeping is one of the primary problems of the most common circadian rhythm disorders. May be a symptom of other disorders as well. It is definitely not reasonable that it redirects here. - Hordaland (talk) 23:52, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Oversleeping & to oversleep are defined in Wiktionary. They were redirects in Wikipedia but have now been deleted. The concept needs only a one line definition, not encyclopedia article(s). - Hordaland (talk) 02:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

hypersomnia, hypersomnolence, excessive daytime sleepiness

These are three different entities unfortunately mixed up as one in the present article. Jclerman 11:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

From MeSH D006970

Disorders characterized by hypersomnolence during normal waking hours that may impair cognitive functioning. Subtypes include primary hypersomnia disorders (e.g., IDIOPATHIC HYPERSOMNOLENCE; NARCOLEPSY; and KLEINE-LEVIN SYNDROME) and secondary hypersomnia disorders where excessive somnolence can be attributed to a known cause (e.g., drug affect, MENTAL DISORDERS, and SLEEP APNEA SYNDROME). (From J Neurol Sci 1998 Jan 8;153(2):192-202; Thorpy, Principles and Practice of Sleep Medicine, 2nd ed, p320) Jclerman 11:58, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thorpy, among others, knew a lot less in 1998 than is now known about CIRCADIAN RHYTHM DISORDERS. Had he revised that section, I feel sure that they would have been included under "known cause." (OTOH, it was Thorpy who devised a modified chronotherapy, which he called "sleep deprivation with phase advance" (SDPA), primarily for adolescents with Delayed sleep phase syndrome (DSPS), already in 1988!) - Hordaland (talk) 05:58, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Quotefarm?

The {quotefarm} tag has been removed, but the remaining quotes from NINDS still make up too large a proportion of the text IMO. In word count: 39%. Especially the first long quote should be paraphrased. Replacing tag. - Hordaland (talk) 06:12, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Edit disagreement

There is a sentence in the article stating: "On November 21, 2012, a Department of Neurology research team at Emory University School of Medicine published findings showing..."
I edited this text filled with superfluous information about date and place of study - information that has nothing to do with hypersomnia, and replaced it with: A 2012 study found that... In my edit summary I stated: "...this is a primary source, a single study. Not sure it should be here at all."
This was reverted by CarsonsDad with the statement: "Wikipedians seem to be more concerned with form rather than making new, important information available to hypersomniacs".
Now, I did not remove any information about the results of this study. But I still wonder if the study should be here. I quote from WP:MEDRS: "Wikipedia's articles, while not intended to provide medical advice, are nonetheless an important and widely used source of health information. Therefore, it is vital that the biomedical information in articles be based on reliable, third-party, published sources and accurately reflect current medical knowledge." The study cited is a primary source, not at all reliable and third party.
So now that I have thought about it, the whole study should be removed. However, I will wait and give CarsonsDad the opportunity to answer. Lova Falk talk 15:28, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Glad to see that talk about hypersomnia has resumed after a 3-year gap. To avoid the appearance of giving medical advice, perhaps this study should appear in a section other than Treatment? Being a hypersomniac myself, I haven't the wherewithall to join a debate over whether the study is reliable, third-party or primarty source. I do know that current medical knowledge is extremely weak when it comes to hypersomnia and that frustrates me no end. CarsonsDad (talk) 08:23, 26 November 2012 (UTC) CarsonsDad

Thank you for putting my edit back in! Lova Falk talk 10:04, 28 November 2012 (UTC)