Talk:Francisco Pizarro

Latest comment: 1 year ago by The andf in topic Reputation in Peru

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2021 edit

There's a lot of information left out but I will only point out that whoever wrote "The natives began calling the Spanish the "Children of the Sun" due to their fair complexions and brilliant armor" didn't cite a single source for this claim. Unless he/she can provide evidence, the quote should be eliminated because it doesn't make any sense considering the location and time this allegedly took place in, the color of the Spanish armor, the smell and hygiene of the Spaniards, and the fact that it was actually the Spaniards who called themselves like that. Just because a particular group of Amerindians recieved them without hostility it doesn't mean that you can come up with an explanation as delusional as "fair complexions", specially when everyone else in the Andes saw them as a group of mercenaries. If you want to change history, why not make an effort and say it was because of their horses? S11MPL33 (talk) 01:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

To editor S11MPL33:   done, and thank you very much! I've read this in other places that were unreliable sources such as student essays (with no cited reference) and most recently in a Wikipedia mirror site. In reliable sources I've found that the Incas referred to themselves (not to Pizarro and his men) as "children of the Sun" or "children of the Sun God". P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 14:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Solar power plant edit

A large solar facility recently opened in Spain. It's not clear who it was named after, but the other Pizarros are South American. TGCP (talk) 23:36, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Reputation in Peru edit

I find the "Legacy" section confusing. I know indigenous peoples regard Pizarro as an oppressor, and do not hold a positive view of him. Regardless, his status in Peru as described by Wikipedia is contradictory. The article states

> "Pizarro is well known and celebrated in Peru as the leader of the Spanish conquest [...]"

Ok, so he is "celebrated".

> "After his invasion, Pizarro destroyed the Inca state and while ruling the area for almost a decade, initiated the decline of local cultures."

Wait, what? "Invasion" is not a positive term. "Destruction of the Inca state"... "decline of local cultures"? How is this a positive thing? Do Peruvians truly celebrate this?

> "much of the local population was reduced to serfdom[citation needed] under the Spanish elite."

Again, do Peruvians celebrate this?

> "Some Peruvians, particularly those of indigenous descent, may regard him negatively, although until relatively recently Pizarro had been portrayed positively, for instance in textbooks, for introducing Catholicism and creating a privileged class of mainly Spanish descent."

How is "creating a privileged class of mainly Spanish descent" something Peruvians would celebrate?

Again, is there clarification of actual Peruvians, both of indingenous and non-indingenous descent, about how Pizarro is held today? The article is *very confusing*! The andf (talk) 15:13, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply