Talk:Edward Smith (sea captain)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2019

Can the infobox be corrected? It shows his age upon death incorrectly. He was born in January 1850 and died in April 1912, thus he was 62 when he he died, not 61. Vengeance11 (talk) 18:30, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done The month was incorrect in the template info, it had 10 (October) instead of the correct 01 (January). Thanks for catching the mistake. Shearonink (talk) 18:48, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Needs more balance.

Good God, this article reads like a hagiography written by Smith's great-grandchildren. Why is there only one weak paragraph that grudgingly admits he might be allotted a smidgeon of blame? And what's with all the crap that speculates he personally swam from lifeboat to lifeboat to cheer the survivors on, before tossing his lifebelt away to meet his fate like a Hollywood hero? Wikipedia, we can do better. I call for an expert on the subject to present a more balanced view, and tone down the blatant hero worship. 73.36.62.119 (talk) 13:38, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Can you provide any proof he was to blame other than Hollywood myths? BritishEmpireAppreciator (talk) 16:55, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Request for Edward Smith article's protection level be lifted.

I want to add reliable first hand information to a protected page; the "Edward Smith (sea captain)" article. I suggest that the page's semi-protected indefinite be lifted, so that I can be able to add the information. The page talks about the account by Robert William Daniels of seeing Smith in the bridge and dying there, while it goes against all the more reliable evidence from other survivors - including the enquiry testimony of the second radio officer Harold Bride, not one of the thousands of far-fetched newspaper accounts given by passengers like Daniels - that Smith may instead have jumped into the sea just before the bridge was submerged, and possibly even nearly reached collapsible B (notice: I say possibly, and indeed Smith's fate will remain uncertain): it is not even certain that Daniels was really still aboard when the ship sank, and IF he was, he was in the extreme stern (newspaper account by the fireman Thomas Patrick Dillon, which is also the only source that placed Daniels aboard - many Titanic historians are instead convinced that he was already in a lifeboat by this time, and there is no way he could have reached the extreme stern if he was near the bridge when it began to flood, because from that moment to the moment the Titanic sank only five minutes or so passed, and there is no way he could have walked up the slanting deck for al the length of the ship. Moreover, all the survivor accounts (see enquiry testimonies) are unanimous in saying that the fore end of the boat deck, where the bridge was, was submerged in a very quick and violent manner, like a "tidal wave" had struck it: it had not flooded slowly like Daniels said. Excuse me for being so commanding but this second hand account has been repeated for nearly several years and is not a reliable account.217.137.43.54 (talk) 07:27, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

There is a whole section devoted to Smith's death' It begins "There are conflicting accounts of Smith's death." and goes on to list half a dozen various accounts. it is not up to Wikipedia to pick and chose which account we like best. IdreamofJeanie (talk) 07:34, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Commodore

Smith never held the title of White Star's commodore. That title was vacant from 1887 to 1922. https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/community/threads/wsl-commodores.53275/ Mab819c (talk) 02:06, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2023

Please remove flags per MOS:INFOBOXFLAG for military personnel. 181.65.139.227 (talk) 23:05, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done – Thank you! FatalFit | ✉ | ✓  23:16, 15 August 2023 (UTC)