Talk:Kodak

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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Rocfan275 in topic Operations

Kodak buildings in Australia edit

When establishing their presence in Australia, many of their regional offices/labs took the form of buildings of a distinctive shape - relatively narrow and tall for their width (3-5 storeys). (see Brisbane, Sydney, Hobart). I'll start looking for any useful references about this, in case it is of interest/relevance to this article, but thought I'd mention it here in case anyone knows more - is it unique to Australian sites? The Hobart site in particular recently had a development application for conversion to apartments so I will scour that for any historical info. -- Chuq (talk) 14:04, 23 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

kodak Photocopiers and LED printers edit

Kodak had quite a big range of photocopiers as well as some very funky laser printers (that used this really smart LED array). IBM did an OEM and sold them as 3827, 3828 and 3829. I added a main section on the photocopiers, but more details would be great....AVandewerdt (talk) 03:31, 8 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Kodak branded led TVs in India edit

Kadak or someone who licenced the brand is selling cheap led tvs in India under the Kodak brand name in high volume. There is no information about it on this wiki page. Reference: Go to amazon.in or flipkart.com and look for Kodak TVs. 103.238.104.243 (talk) 20:45, 4 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

It’s a brand license deal. Doesn’t look like Kodak are contributing anything but their brand name. Check this out:

https://kodaktv.in/about/

“ We were created in 2016 out of the exclusive brand licensing agreement between our parent company, Super Plastronics Pvt Ltd. (SPPL), and the Eastman Kodak Company, USA. Holding the exclusive licensee in India, SPPL gradually escalated its innovation from CRT TVs to Smart LED TVs.” AVandewerdt (talk) 20:57, 4 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Kohlberg Kravis Roberts edit

Does anyone have recent information on the relationship between Kodak and KKR? The most recent articles I could find were about the resignation of KKR-appointed members of Kodak's board in 2011. I don't see any information in news archives on what happened during and after the bankruptcy proceedings. Rocfan275 (talk) 21:43, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Is Kodak selling film? edit

My impression is that Kodak, the corporation, sold its film manufacturing operation to a separate independent entity, Alaris, with a deal to use the Kodak brand and trademark.

The article text makes it sound like Kodak is selling film through a division called Alaris, but I have seen no source for that. Anyone know which is correct? SPECIFICO talk 19:59, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Kodak film brands have been one of the more confusing topics to follow since the bankruptcy proceedings. Kodak Alaris is an independent company which was spun off from Eastman Kodak in 2012. Kodak Alaris was given control over Kodak's consumer film and paper distribution (as shown on their website) as well as most overseas manufacturing facilities, while Eastman Kodak retained the distribution rights for motion picture film (as shown on their website) and Eastman Business Park, where most film is manufactured. Kodak Alaris has since sold most (if not all) of its own film manufacturing facilities to other companies. At least some of their consumer film is manufactured by Eastman Kodak in Rochester, as seen in this press release for the announcement of Ektachrome's return. Eastman Kodak and Kodak Alaris both sell film under the Kodak brand.
TL;DR Kodak-brand motion picture film stock is solely manufactured and distributed by Eastman Kodak. Kodak-brand consumer film is partially manufactured by Eastman Kodak and solely distributed by Kodak Alaris. Any ambiguities should be corrected in the article. Rocfan275 (talk) 01:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
From what I have seen, Kodak manufactures motion picture film, but all of the still film is produced and distributed by the independent Alaris entity. Is that your understanding, or if not do you have a secondary source that states that the still film is actually manufactured by the Kodak corporation? Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 01:37, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
There are an abundance of secondary sources that Eastman Kodak still manufactures still film, such as this article from WXXI last year, but otherwise yes. Rocfan275 (talk) 01:49, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. If you are so inclined, I think it would be helpful to clarify this in the article text. My impression is still that Alaris is manufacturing still film elsewhere. I'm surprised that the mothballed US factory can be brought back after a hiatus. SPECIFICO talk 02:07, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Weight of coverage in lede seems quite backward edit

Right now, the lede of this article is about 440 words. Of that, about 120 words are devoted to the 100 or more years where Kodak was the dominant photographic products company and an everyday household name in American life, and about 320 words are used to detail all the troubles Kodak has had in the 25 years or so since those days ended. This ratio seems almost exactly backwards to me. The most important thing for the lede to convey is what Kodak once was, not what it is now. The lede as it stands now does not do that. Wasted Time R (talk) 23:58, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Also , the past 25 years have been spent making a adtaggering and uninterrupted series of bad decisions. Not sure how to find sources that discuss that. SPECIFICO talk 00:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Kodak's decline in the 2000s has been used as a case study in business textbooks and journals. I have used one, Contemporary Strategy Analysis by Robert Grant, as a source in the article. Others exist which I don't have access to. Rocfan275 (talk) 00:33, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
I have modified the lede to better summarize Kodak's history. Rocfan275 (talk) 03:52, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Operations edit

The operations section is very incomplete and does not provide information which is particularly useful to the reader. A list of Kodak's subsidiaries as of 2020 can be found in this SEC filing; I have looked into these companies and all of them appear to be international divisions of Kodak, shells of defunct subsidiaries, or otherwise unnoteworthy. I believe there are two options which make sense for this section:

  1. Have this section cover former operations and subsidiaries. Kodak had many facilities around the world which have been written about in secondary sources and some have their own Wikipedia articles already.
  2. Delete the section and incorporate the material on Kodak Research Laboratories into the History section.

Rocfan275 (talk) 01:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

I have updated the operation section and listed some current subsidiaries for which there is secondary coverage. Rocfan275 (talk) 13:30, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply