Talk:Doc Watson

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Could we find a more recent, or better picture of Doc Watson? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.159.45.30 (talk • contribs) 20:54, July 30, 2005

The article now has a high-contrast photo of Doc Watson from 2009. —Tim Pierce (talk) 17:12, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Seventh son?

Besides that, Doc usually is a nickname for the seventh child (son) in a family. (Jan Willems) -

Was he a seventh son? rags (talk) 12:31, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

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Why is User: stuff in article? I took it out.

Fplay 05:13, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Discography

Doc has done a lot of records, shouldn't we include a list of some of the most well known ones, ie Sittin Here Pickin the Blues?

I agree - I think a full discography should be the goal, however.

I'm working on the discography... kind of slow. What's up with Doc and Merle's Guitar Album? Was it released in 1972 or 1983? Or a re-release in 83? I'm having troubles finding info. Otherwise, I'll get more done and probably break the discography over to a new page as it's going to be huge.Airproofing (talk) 01:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Merle

I don't know enough to fix this myself, but does anyone else think it doesn't make a lot of sense to redirect Merle Watson to Doc's page? I mean, they're two different people; a basic stub would be better than what we've got. It's labeled as a redirect for subtopics, but I don't think that really applies here. Evanbro 00:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree (although I'm not likely to fix it soon myself, either). Merle is famous enough for a Wikipedia article. --Allen 03:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree - Merle deserves his own page. There is some information available here: http://www.merlefest.org/DocsIntro.htm. Merle was named by Frets magazine as best fingerstyle guitarist of 1985, that makes him worthy of his own page. --User:DanielLevitin 20:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

At least add the Reflections album he did with Chet Atkins.

A further trouble is that the page's summary intro declares that Watson performed with his son for "over 15 years," till the latter's 1985 death, but the page goes on to say the two began performing together in 1964. That's more than 15 years' time, all right; in fact, it's more than 20. Why "over 15 years"? Mucketymuck (talk) 05:20, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Error in bio

It should say that the first song Doc learned to play on guitar was "When the Roses Bloom in Dixieland" -- not the first song he ever learned, period. He had played harmonica and banjo before picking up the guitar. Also, under instruments played under his picture, you should include mandolin and autoharp; he has recorded on both -- the first on several tracks on "The Watson Family" and "Old Timey Concert" and the second on one of the Newport Folk Festival CDs. He plays "Grandfather's Clock" and "Chinese Breakdown" on the autoharp, if memory serves. Banjochris (talk) 03:09, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Doc and the Banjo

Doc's first stringed instrument was the 5 string banjo which appears on recordings throughout his life. I am working on a comprehensive list of his banjo recordings and other historical/technical aspects of his playing. Would this go in as a new section in this entry, or should we start a specific page on his banjo playing? Rodeworks(talk) 16:12, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

(New sections go at the bottom of the talk page.) His banjo skills are already mentioned two or three times. Many musicians play multiple instruments. WP:WEIGHT indicates that such a detail should not be discussed so extensively that it outweighs other important details in the article. This is not a long article. I think the banjo is already discussed enough. If you wish to reword what's already written that might be appropriate, but certainly do not create a new section. Also please read WP:V and WP:RS. Anything you add to the article must be referenced to a reliable source (see WP:CITE for citing sources). Don't assume that every song in which you hear a banjo that it is being played by Doc. Thanks. Cresix (talk) 16:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Career

The career section could use more inline refs imo, and maybe be a separate section from the guitars. Since he played other instruments, maybe a section covering all the instruments together. This is a wonderful and informative article, but it could still use some work. Maybe material for a GA or an FA. rags (talk) 12:43, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

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Arlen Roth quote

What does Mr. Roth's opinion have to do with Doc's legacy? Doc's greatness as a performer and impact on flatpicking speaks for itself as anyone who seriously plays guitar knows. GuitarTesseract (talk) 04:44, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Doc's influence on Clarence White

I am not comfortable with the suggestion that Doc was seminal to Clarence's flatpicking style. The Country Boys appeared on Andy Griffith's TV show in 1961, the same year that Doc came before a wider audience, and Clarence was clearly something special already. Doc was uncommonly gracious to other guitarists and I am sure they had a warm relationship. Doc was on stage with the Kentucky Colonels at the '64 Newport Festival. As to who originated specific techniques such as alternating stroke crosspicking, probably the earliest recording will have to do as it's too late to ask them. GuitarTesseract (talk) 05:48, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

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External link

As per WP:ELBURDEN, disputed links should be excluded by default until there is consensus for inclusion. @Sundayclose: please explain what unique value you feel the disputed link provides when there are already multiple links providing images of the subject, plus what's available on Commons. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:28, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I agree regarding current links for images (and I've reverted), although WP:RSP#Find A Grave allows for some uses of the website, so the requirement for consensus does not always apply. Sundayclose (talk) 18:41, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Sundayclose, regardless of whether some uses of the website are allowed, WP:ELBURDEN indicates that in cases of dispute consensus is required for inclusion. I'm not sure why you are still insisting otherwise. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:42, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I disagree about the universal requirement for consensus. Sundayclose (talk) 18:49, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Then you're welcome to propose a change to ELBURDEN, but until you do so successfully the requirement remains. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't have to propose a change to ELBURDEN. I've already explained why F.A.G. images can be used. I'm not repeating myself any more. Sundayclose (talk) 18:54, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

If you don't intend to propose a change to ELBURDEN, then you need to follow it - even if you think you have a really good reason to include a particular link, RSP doesn't override the consensus requirement. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Already explained. My last edit unless you say something new or someone else comments. Sundayclose (talk) 18:57, 22 July 2023 (UTC)