Talk:Directed panspermia

Possible copyvio

... Chunks of this appear to be a rewrite of http://journalofcosmology.com/SearchForLife111.html. Hairhorn (talk) 03:32, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Request for reversal of page deletion

I am requesting to undelete "Directed Panspermia". It was deleted because there is a short on the subject under "Panspermia". However, Directed Panspermia is basically different, as it deals with the spread of life in space intentionally by technological civilisations, rather than naturally. Because of this, Directed Panspermia requires different technological, and also ethical, considerations, such as the selction of biological payloads, target solar systems, launch, navigation, capture, the chances of success and the required biomass; also a biocentric space ethics.

Directed panspermia is a serious scientific subject, that has been discussed and researched by Nobel-Prize winner Prof. Francis Crick, also Profs. Carl Sagan, L. E. Orgel and M. N. Mautner in several peer-reviewed papers(including one in Journal of Cosmology as another viewer noted, which is a referenced source of the submitted article). The subject has been discussed widely by the media and in numerous websites (a Google search will show this) which shows that the subject is well notable. With over 20 references, the proposed article is scholarly and amply documented.

Seeding the galaxy with life is possible with existing technology, with consequences for the future of life in the universe. It needs informed public debate, and the Wikipedia article can contribute significantly.

For these reasons, the submitted article merits a separate full Wikipeadia article. Of course, the current subsection under "Panspermia" can be kept and linked to the Main article on Directed panspermia, as is done commonly in Wikipedia articles.

132.181.225.56 (talk) 04:01, 14 May 2012 (UTC)AbrahamDavidson132.181.225.56 (talk) 04:01, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

What about directed panspermia within our Solar System?

it ought to be possible for us, at this point, to engineer or breed multicellular microorganisms capable of surviving on the surface of Mars, and perhaps even on Venus or on Europa, or in the clouds of the gas giants. Surely there must be some thought to this end.... DeistCosmos (talk) 19:57, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

That would be forward contamination, I believe. BatteryIncluded (talk) 21:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

So what gives any group the right to prohibit that? Is it against the law? Were a man to breed moss designed to thrive on Mars and then launch it towards it, would he be subject to some regime of corporeal punishment? And suppose we exhaustively search and discover no life on Mars, would not panspermia then make sense towards it? DeistCosmos (talk) 21:50, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

This is an interesting discussion, but not one for this talk page. Talk pages are for discussions about improving a Wikipedia page, not general debates about the subject ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 01:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Original research

In its present form, the majority of the assertions in this article are unsourced and appear to reflect personal opinions or research, rather than being a summary of publicly-available academic articles on the subject. The section "Objections and counterarguments" is the most obvious example of this. Unless someone can come up with a few more sources, I'm tempted to do some extreme trimming in order to remove what appears to be original research ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 02:06, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

I agree. Please do so. BatteryIncluded (talk) 11:27, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Dawkins

It should be worth noting that Richard Dawkins believes in this theory. I recently watched an interview with him and Ben Stein about the origins of life, and he clearly stated that he believes life was seeded from another civilization. Does anyone know of any clearer sources that state his belief in this? Iheartthestrals (talk) 19:36, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Doesn't sound like something Dawkins would say. What's the direct quote? I'm guessing that he might've said it was possible for an intelligent civilisation, which originally evolved in a Darwinian manner, to deliberately seed life elsewhere. But for him to say he "clearly" believes it sounds like completely false nonsense. Spellcast (talk) 07:47, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Fringe edit?

Relevant comments?

Copied from "User talk:Drbogdan#Directed panspermia Drbogdan (talk) 00:44, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

-- Directed panspermia --

You keep reverting facts from a sourced article that seem imperative to the subject. Explain why, I am going to have to add it again unless you explain it. Are you knowledgeable on the subject or just on an editing rampage?--Mapsfly (talk) 21:44, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mapsfly: Thank you for your comments - as noted on the "edit summary" to the "Directed panspermia" article, your edit, based on a "reference" from "someone" (see => "Chandra Wickramasinghe#Polonnaruwa") associated with the "Journal of Cosmology", a questionable source well-known for "promoting fringe and speculative viewponts", seems "WP:FRINGE" and not supported by the responsible scientific literature - best suggestion, "as mentioned", is to seek agreement (esp in the form of "WP:CONSENSUS") from other editors on the "talk-page to the article" - please support your suggested edit with "WP:Reliable Sources" from the responsible scientific literature - other editors may agree with you - in which case there may be no further reason to revert your edit - hope this helps in some way - in any case - Thanks again for your own comments - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 22:24, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

References

I fully support the deletion of that material, especially since all the third-party reports dismissed Wainwright [hilarious] story. -BatteryIncluded (talk) 04:08, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Exoplanets only?

I'm thinking the word exoplanets here should be more generally as any planet excluding the earth, including other planets in the solar system, like Mars for instance. Tom Ruen (talk) 02:49, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Fixed: planets and exoplanets. BatteryIncluded (talk) 03:23, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Ha, but given the confusing definition of planet, minor bodies potentially could also be habitable, as well as moons like Titan or Europa! :( Tom Ruen (talk) 04:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

I see what you mean. How about the neutral term 'astronomical bodies'. -BatteryIncluded (talk) 15:04, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Sounds good. I see Astronomical object is an article, and astronomical body redirects there. Tom Ruen (talk) 15:51, 26 November 2017 (UTC)