Talk:British Railways Mark 2
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999550, Departmental coach
I don't think Iarnród Éireann use any of these now - a lot of their trains look like they've been replaced with the new non-orange coloured trains. Though I don't know much about trains or IE's new stock - could someone give an update on this?
I remember being in some of these carriages on Limerick-Dublin trains around 2000 - they appeared to vary a lot in design internally, and were quite manky... --Zilog Jones 23:43, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)"dont lick the bunnY"
Mark IIs are on the way out on the Irish railway system, but not yet scrapped/disposed of (and still run at times). However, suburban DMUs have already been introduced on the route to Sligo in preference to the Mark IIs (although really the reason is that a bridge over the River Shannon is nearly falling down, and can't really take locomotives across it). There have been some workings of Mark IIs to Sligo since though.
The definitive withdrawal of Mark II in Ireland will likely happen either when more of the 67 CAF intercity carriages arrive, when more CAF suburban DMUs arrive, or when the 100 new intercity DMUs arrive (and certainly when the extra 30 on top of that arrive).
Mark II will not likely be kept for specials/extra trains, as there will be spare Mark IIIs at that stage.
I'm fairly certain about all of these details, but check Irish Railway News for more up to date information (esp. the thread "Last locos on the Sligo line").
The info panel states a gauge of 1435mm but the article says they were supplied new (or converted) with other gauges. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 10:48, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
There is and never was an 'S' version of this coach however there are a number of uses referring to the original Mk2 as a Mk2s - e.g. many model railway retailers (I think the original release of the Bachmann model referred the Mk2 version as a 'Mk2s'). I have reworded instances on this page where 'Mk2s' was used as a plural or collective term to 'Mk2 coaches' (or similar) to hopefully reduce this confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2ghoti (talk • contribs) 11:29, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
- I think this may be a misreading of the TOPS designation. When TOPS diagram numbers were introduced, the fourth character indicated the "Mark", with figure 1 indicating Mark 1, and letters A-F denoting Mark 2a through Mark 2f: so the Mark 1 corridor first was AA11; the Mark 2a corridor first was AA1A; the Mark 2b FK was AA1B; Mark 2c AA1C; and Mark 2d AA1D. For the early Mark 2, which predated Mark 2a, BR for some reason coded these as the letter Z instead of the more logical figure 2 - so the original corridor first became AA1Z and in some books, they have retrospectively been described as "Mark 2z". I expect that those model manufacturers have somehow turned the Z around, to make S. It wouldn't be the first mistake made by catalogue compilers: the Lima catalogues of the 1980s were horrific. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:23, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Corrections to Paragraph 1 above: Bachmann only produce Mark 2 (now known as Mark 2z) and Mark 2a coaches. A few have been mis-numbered in the incorrect series. Hornby have NEVER produced Mark 2a/2b coaches, nor have they used Lima mouldings for the Mark 2 range. Originally in 1967 they manufactured two Mark 2 types (BFK & TSO) which continued in production for over 35 years, mainly in Blue/Grey livery but also latterly in Network Southeast and Royal train burgundy. Their current range of Mark 2d coaches were moulds bought from Dapol which were originally manufactured by Airfix in their GMR [Great Model Railways] range. Lima manufactured Mark 2b (BFK, FK & TSO) and Mark 2e coaches (FO & TSO) in both Blue/Grey and Executive liveries. Although it is believed that Hornby have acquired these moulds, none has been issued under the Hornby name. [Information from model catalogues and personal collection of models] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 12:39, 4 November 2012