Talk:Bhagat Singh Thind

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Ziegenbalg66 in topic Wiki Education assignment: Asian Religions in America

War Hero edit

Peter Bagge in Reason v. 38, n. 4, p. 54 (Aug/Sep 2006) refers to Thind as a war hero. Anyone with authority on the matter agree and desire to add an explanation?

yes, apparently he did serve in the US army during WW1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.64.216 (talk) 08:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

WikiProject class rating edit

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 17:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

NPOV edit

Clearly, this article has a great deal of information, but there are almost too many violations of the NPOV rule to count. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.193.203 (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

I feel like I've been to this page in the past, and while it was slightly sparser, was in much better shape. I'll try to parse through it and clean it up after final exams. (talk) 03:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Emigrated to United States edit

The section "Emigrated to United States" includes what appears to be an inaccurate description of the 1790 Naturalization Act and a attribution of a quote. The second paragraph here quotes The Multiracial Activist – www.multiracial.com – Perez v. Sharp (32 Cal. 2d 711, 198 P. 2d 17) as stating "persons of African nativity or persons of African descent". However, that phrase never appears anywhere on the link. The same phrase appears in the entry for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozawa_v._United_States, but is uncited there. The phrase also does not appear anywhere in the 1790 Naturalization Act or the 1906 Naturalization Act. Indeed, the phrase appears on the internet only 23 times, and in nearly all cases is just a copy of the Wikipedia Ozawa entry. (https://www.google.com/search?q=%22persons+of+African+nativity+or+persons+of+African+descent%22&safe=active&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS758US758&ei=7AFVWuqEDs3ojwOHxazwBw&start=20&sa=N&biw=1600&bih=1072)

The citation using www.multiracial.com should probably be deleted and, at minimum, the the quotation marks removed from the phrase. But note that while native-born persons of African descent would be citizens under the 14th amendment, immigrants of African descent were prohibited by law from becoming naturalized American citizens at the time. So, the sentence is effectively inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beanbag82 (talkcontribs) 18:02, 9 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

OK, having looked into this, it seems that the extension of naturalisation to "aliens of African nativity and to persons of African descent" actually comes from the Naturalization Act of 1870, rather than either the 1790 or the 1906 Acts. The 1906 Act seems to have been largely administrative, but did add the proviso that those applying for naturalisation should be able to speak English. Nick Cooper (talk) 16:30, 6 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Education assignment: Asian Religions in America edit

  This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 September 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Skidepedia23 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: RyGuyVerve, IdekoTo.

— Assignment last updated by Ziegenbalg66 (talk) 00:35, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Plan for some updates edit

This page on Bhagat Singh Thind does a great job explaining the supreme court case(s) he fought but it comes short in going beyond. Thus, I would like to discuss more about the implications, and also why Bhagat Singh Thind fought so hard for a nation that didn’t fight for him, both in being a soldier for the military in World War I, and also for the right to be a citizen. Additionally, many details of his life are left out, such as where he immigrated to and the reasons for it. Thus, I will discuss his early life section in a bit more detail and add some edits on how he immigrated to Seattle, and what were the reasons that drove him to immigrate? The current page also mentions that “Thind also campaigned for Indian independence from colonial rule” but doesn’t go deeper on what exactly he did once he came to the United States, specifically in joining the Ghadar movement. I found it really interesting that the British government had spies in Seattle to know what was occurring in the Ghadar movement’s planning, and even spied on Bhagat Singh Thind. They do however, discuss this slightly in its impact on his court case. Lastly, I also thought it would make some sense to reorganize the page a bit. One key thing that I haven’t found much information on is his wife who he married in 1940. I find this interesting, as we know that other Asian American immigrants had to marry in order to gain citizenship, but I wonder why Bhagat Singh Thind waited to get married until after he gained his citizenship in 1935, but I am having trouble finding quality sources? Skidepedia23 (talk) 02:04, 8 November 2022 (UTC)Reply