Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
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If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

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Pomona–Downtown station → Pomona Transit Center (currently a redirect back to Pomona–Downtown station) (move · discuss) – This is the official name of the station, and other American train stations named "Transit Center" (such as Oceanside Transit Center) are named in this same manner on Wikipedia. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 01:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what the best thing is here... it seems like the common name for the Amtrak station is just "Pomona", while the MetroLink station is called "Pomona–Downtown". Not seeing that much coverage for "Pomona Transit Center", do you have sources confirming that? There are also Pomona stations elsewhere, so I wonder if the present name is just the best, as a sort of WP:NATURALDIS and it is the name of the MetroLink after all... — Amakuru (talk) 11:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Stygiomedusa → Stygiomedusa gigantea (currently a redirect back to Stygiomedusa) (move · discuss) – article title is Genus yet contents are of Species Phantomjelly (talk) 11:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC) Phantomjelly (talk) 11:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This species is the only member of its genus, therefore per the guidelines at WP:MONOTYPICFAUNA, the current name is the correct one - "the article (if there is no common name) should go under the scientific name of lowest rank, but no lower than the monotypic genus". Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 12:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
John Mosca → John Mosca (restaurateur) (move · discuss) – No primary topic between him and the jazz musician. A dab should be at this title. Mach61 13:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bank of New South Wales v Commonwealth → Bank Nationalisation Case (currently a redirect back to Bank of New South Wales v Commonwealth) (move · discuss) – Bank Nationalisation Case is the common name for two cases: Bank of New South Wales v Commonwealth and the appeal case of Commonwealth v Bank of New South Wales. Previously there were two stub pages that I merged into one page. As there is no need to disambiguate the pages now, the common name of Bank Nationalisation Case should be used. I don't think I can move it, as it currently redirects to Bank of New South Wales v Commonwealth Safes007 (talk) 14:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2024 Sonsio Grand Prix at the Indiapolis Motor Speedway → 2024 Sonsio Grand Prix (currently a redirect back to 2024 Sonsio Grand Prix at the Indiapolis Motor Speedway) (move · discuss) – Concise and precise. An editor made a redirect out of a redlink at the (original) target, and another editor made an article at a less-correct title instead of overwriting the redirect. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 15:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GNOME Archive Manager → File Roller (currently a redirect back to GNOME Archive Manager) (move · discuss) – This is essentially a rename back to original name; old name is incorrect (see talk page); project is no longer part of GNOME at all since December 2022, old name appears nowhere in project documentation or references to project. Kphoek (talk) 15:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am autoconfirmed but could not move the page with error "The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid." I believe this is because the redirect page has a non-trivial edit history? (It was modified once to avoid a double redirect?) I request help---if anyone happened to have the kindness to let me know why I failed (e.g. on my user page) I would be very grateful. Kphoek (talk) 15:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Salumi → salume (currently a redirect back to Salumi) (move · discuss) – Singular form. JackkBrown (talk) 06:50, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't seem uncontroversial - salumi has much higher usage than salume.[1] And probably matches the usual salami rather than salame too. — Amakuru (talk) 09:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Amakuru: all right, but "salami" (English word; in English the plural is mostly used for some foods, and I still don't understand why; e.g. "panini") in Italian is "salame", while the singular of "salumi" is "salume". JackkBrown (talk) 10:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
W. D. Gaster → W.D. Gaster (currently a redirect back to W. D. Gaster) (move · discuss) – The name of this character is W.D. Gaster without a space between W. and D. It looks like there's a space because in Undertale a period takes up the same space as any other character. Diamantinasaurus (talk) 20:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Diamantinasaurus Wikipedia standard is to put spaces after periods in initials. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography#Initials. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 01:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) (not opposing (or supporting)) Is it strange to think MOS:INITS applies even to a fictional character? (An initial is capitalized and is followed by a full point (period) and a space (e.g. J. R. R. Tolkien).). Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Other aspects of Wikipedia styling conventions are certainly applied to fictional subjects – for example, there's the WP:TITLETM example of Invader ZIM → Invader Zim. Considering fiction an exception seems like it would lead to all sorts of randomness. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:49, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Judicial disqualification → Recusal (currently a redirect back to Judicial disqualification) (move · discuss) – Most common term for this concept, most accurate term for this concept since the article and the idea is not limited to justices, and 4/4 editors on talk page so far agree Superb Owl (talk) 22:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Object to speedy move I think this should have a discussion, since recusal is not restricted to this judicial sense. If it moves to recusal, the article would need a rewrite to make it more generalized. -- 65.92.244.143 (talk) 05:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is already a section entitled: Administrative agency and other matters. I agree the article needs to be rewritten, but do not see the harm in having an article entitled 'recusal' that, for the time being, largely focuses on judges? Seems a bit of a chicken and the egg situation when the move performed in 2007 (by a banned editor with no consensus at the time) should never have happened and if it hadn't, the article would have a wider array of examples in it. Superb Owl (talk) 18:41, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the word 'disqualif...' is used only 17 times in the article vs. 61 for 'recus...'. Full case for recusal can be found here. Superb Owl (talk) 00:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RAF Saxa Vord → RRH Saxa Vord (currently a redirect back to RAF Saxa Vord) (move · discuss) – It is referred to as RRH not RAF PAWPERSO (talk) 06:36, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some sourcing demonstrating that the proposed name is more common would be useful here. It seems like both names are in use. — Amakuru (talk) 15:17, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RAF Neatishead → RRH Neatishead (currently a redirect back to RAF Neatishead) (move · discuss) – It is referred to as RRH not RAF PAWPERSO (talk) 06:36, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Justine (de Sade novel) → Justine (Sade novel) (currently a redirect back to Justine (de Sade novel)) (move · discuss) – In the French naming custom, the particle "de" is not part of the last name and shouldn't appear when the first name or a title doesn't appear, e.g. Guy de Maupassant's last name would be Maupassant, etc. P. T. Tabayi (talk) 09:25, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't seem to match common English usage. For example Charles de Gaulle is always De Gaulle, not Gaulle. Britannica also uses De Sade.[2] — Amakuru (talk) 15:25, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is Gaulle that doesn't match common English usage. You will find that the vast majority of works about Sade refer to him as such in the context we are talking about, from famous books, to famous essays, to even the English Wikipedia page of the writer itself. Taking a quick look at that page and its references will show that "Sade" is, beyond the correct linguistic choice, the common usage in literature and academia as well. P. T. Tabayi (talk) 09:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Spencer Dickinson (politician) → Spencer Dickinson (move · discuss) – Moved the page originally called "Spencer Dickinson" since it was just some random stub with 3x less pageviews per month, however the move left behind a redirect page so I cannot move this page. SusImposter49 (talk) 21:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if that's a strong enough argument to declare the politician to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over the music project. That music article could be expanded, and the current name-only redirect could become a new disambig page, IMO. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 00:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I created a dab at the base page name purely as a procedural matter to avoid WP:MISPLACED while this technical move request is being discussed. I have no opinion on the primary topic. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SusImposter49: This move is potentially controversial, so it would require a requested-move discussion, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 06:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could the music project be expanded? I was looking into its background just out of curiosity, I'd say it barely even qualifies a page of its own. But the disambig page is a fine solution. SusImposter49 (talk) 12:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Orange station (California) → Orange Transportation Center (currently a redirect back to Orange station (California)) (move · discuss) – This is the official name of the station, and other American train stations named "Transit Center" (such as Oceanside Transit Center) are named in this same manner on Wikipedia. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 01:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Contest this one, we don't particularly use the WP:OFFICIALNAME and need evidence that the present name isn't the common name. — Amakuru (talk) 11:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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